OK. Point taken concerning my first mail on this subject.

So now it appears that there are a few of us who do not think
attachments should be allowed. An FTP site sounds like a good idea. 

Cheers,Liam.



> ----------
> From:         Espinola Jr, Micheal
> Sent:         13 February 2001 18:10
> To:   '[EMAIL PROTECTED] '; '[EMAIL PROTECTED] ';
> '[EMAIL PROTECTED] '; '[EMAIL PROTECTED] '; '[EMAIL PROTECTED] '
> Subject:      RE: 
> 
> I think that your original email was a bit harsh.  This is a public
> list
> that any one can choose to join and lurk on.
> 
> Just because they joined, dont make them a seasoned professional.
> 
> But, I do agree that this list shouldnt allow attachments.  Its
> convenient
> to see v-cards, but I dont think its neccessary.  Certainly any need
> to send
> someone an attachment doesnt need to go to the entire list.
> 
> And if it does, its likely that it should be hosted on an ftp
> somewhere.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 2/13/01 8:30 AM
> Subject: RE: 
> 
> Que?
> 
> I was not complaining about the e-mail informing us that is was a
> 'nasty
> little script'. I was highlighting the point that a mailing list whose
> focus is IT Security was used to prolifferate malware. 
> 
> Let me see if I have you straight here. OK its nice to see the A.V.
> and
> content analysis tools you have spent much resource on working as
> intended (Cheers for the the sample guys). But you can't seriously be
> telling me that the fact that this script was (Apparently/allegedly)
> sent to every e-mail address in Mr Rollie's Address Book, and that it
> was forwarded on to all of us is a usefull service?
> 
> As one security professional to another. Even if it had no effect on
> any
> recipient. What would your response be when one of your company's
> customers calls up to complain about being sent a virus via e-mail
> from
> one of your users. Let me see if I can guess....
> 
> To give you some comfort ( as you are obviosuly concerned for my well
> being ) Of course I don't trust attachments. I do examine suspicious
> attachments with something a little more sophisticated than Notepad
> (or
> is that vi).
> 
> My appologies to all on the list. My mail was supposed to address what
> I
> considered to be a serious issue. My intention was not to flame the
> guys
> who run this list or to start a flame war on the list. However, I fear
> that may be the result.
> 
> Liam.
> 
> > ----------
> > From:       Bill Royds
> > Sent:       13 February 2001 13:00
> > To:         [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
> [EMAIL PROTECTED];
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject:    RE: 
> > 
> > Actually that message was very useful to me. It gave me early
> warning
> > about the virus by showing that it leaked through our email
> anti-virus
> > and the code gave me  some strings to scan for on our IDS.
> >   As a security professional, I never execute anything I get in
> email,
> > but I do examine it with text only tools to look for problems. Don't
> > you
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 06:03
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: 
> > Importance: High
> > 
> > 
> > I have to say that it is a pretty sad state of affairs when a
> mailing
> > list that is dedicated to IT security issues falls foul of this type
> > of
> > problem. 
> > 
> > Is there any need to allow attachments on this forum? 
> > 
> > I assume that there is some form of content analysis performed on
> the
> > traffic through this list.....?
> > 
> > I would assume that most people on this list have some form of
> content
> > analyser implemented on their mail gateway. I would further assume
> > that
> > if you were not covered when the first VBS was distributed then you
> > were
> > pretty soon afterwards ( weren't you? ). This is the responsible
> thing
> > to do. I am sure that the guys who run this list would think so too.
> 
> > 
> > I know that this list is run (pretty smoothly) as a free service to
> us
> > and the relevant T&Cs are in place, but people have been put on RBL
> > for
> > less. Is there a cheep and simple method you guys could implement by
> > which attachments could be prohibited on this list?
> > 
> > Cheers,Liam. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > ----------
> > > From:     Matt Rogghe
> > > Sent:     12 February 2001 20:55
> > > To:       'Gary Rollie'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > 
> > > That last post to here was a nasty little replicator script.
> Looks
> > > like
> > > it's just hitting the global address list so far on the exchange
> > > server.
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