On Fri, 25 May 2001, Devin L. Ganger wrote:

> On Fri, May 25, 2001 at 02:13:14PM -0700, Eric Robinson wrote:
>  
> > In an ideal world, I suppose we would have time to conduct an "exhaustive
> > forensic analysis" of each of the 9000+ effected systems.
> 
> Nope.  That's where the risk analysis comes in.
> 
> "How much risk will I be at, versus the amount of labor invested?"

and tools and $$$ available to do the proper level of risk analysis

> Full analysis + actions indicated: low risk, extremely high labor.

that depends on who it is doing the analysis and what they were
looking for.....

> No analysis, rebuild system: low risk, moderate labor.

extreme high rish....100% guraranteed that they will get back in
since you did NOT patch the system the first time... doing the
same thing is 100% guranteed they will get in again should they
return or other kiddies attempt the same exploit in the same manner

c ya
alvin


> Light analysis, plug holes: unknown risk, low labor.
>  
> > We plugged the hole and moved on. Twenty days later, still no apparent
> > problem or strange activity on the server. No exhaustive analysis performed.
> > No hard drive reformatted. No time wasted.
> 
> This time.  Until the black hats get smarter than your instinct.
>  
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