On Tue, 23 Oct 2001, Paul D. Robertson wrote:

> On Tue, 23 Oct 2001, David Lang wrote:
>
> > the other though I've had on this (but haven't taken the time to pursue)
> > is if openssh can be configured to use PAM then it may be possible to use
> > a PAM module to do the token c/r.
>
> I dunno about challenge/response tokens, I've used a PAM Raduis
> authenticator to auth SSH under Linux, and the module was either supposed
> to run on Solaris, or not too difficult to get there if you're using
> SecureID and willing to let the ACE server do RADIUS.
>
> > and I'm not saying it's the right thing to use as a companies internet
> > firewall either :-) I primarily use it for internal firewalls where I want
> > the strong authentication it provides (for services that support it) and
>
> If you're not doing strong auth, or you want to have some fun writing
> code, Apache's mod_proxy can be made to auth proxy requests- I never had
> much luck getting a clean-looking content filtering mechanism grafted on
> though, and one-time tokens like Secure-ID took more effort than it was
> worth (Couldn't ever figure out if I could do cookies to the proxy server
> and building a seperate credential caching daemon seemed way more trouble
> than talking our firewall reseller into an Enterprise license ;) )

doing strong authentication for http/https is far from simple.

> > I would say that I wished that someone else would come up with a set of
> > proxies and a authentication engine similar to what the FWTK provides, but
> > I guess the job it does is simple and complete enough (again within it's
> > limits) that there's not enough reason for anyone to reinvent the wheel.
>
> There are some proxy projects around- I'm not sure how strong any of the
> auth stuff is though.  These days you can almost get away with just
> supporting http/https though.

only if what you are trying to support is internet access, for internal
firewalls you end up needing a lot more.

David Lang

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