On Thu, 17 Jan 2002, Alvin Oga wrote:

> 
> simple way.... pierce your own firewall ..if you can...they can too
>       - power off your machine... you're now offline/dead
>       ( no skills needed... a janitor at night can take you offline )
> 
>       - 80% of hacking/attacking is gonna be internally created
> 
>       - if you have telnet/ftp/pop/user accounts enabled on your
>       firewall, time to go back to basics and harden the server first

One of the reasons we prefer to do a thourough aduit rather then
"piercing" or pen testing.  A thourough audit of policies, assest,
CONFIGURATION, known vulnerabilites, it often yeilds better info in a
resource diminished environment then either of the other two.  It
certainly grants one definate useful info as to what needs fixing and
hardening in time and resource constraints in a quicker manner, while
educating the folks involved.

Thanks,

Ron DuFresne
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"Cutting the space budget really restores my faith in humanity.  It
eliminates dreams, goals, and ideals and lets us get straight to the
business of hate, debauchery, and self-annihilation." -- Johnny Hart
        ***testing, only testing, and damn good at it too!***

OK, so you're a Ph.D.  Just don't touch anything.

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