1. netscreen dip question. (GOH)

Netscreen's fundamental Issues,


You may not find any answer rom Netscreen Co.
Because their concept ofr NS 10 and Other products does not support that.
It is not a code issues., calling to Netscreen may  consume your time.....


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Today's Topics:

   1. netscreen dip question. (bob bobing)
   2. hardening of netware 5.0 (vishwas asemend)
   3. RE: choice netscreen / sidewinder (Klaus Schulze)
   4. RE: iFolder ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
   5. RE: Firewalls digest, Vol 1 #558 - 12 msgs ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
   6. RE: netscreen dip question. (Dell, Jeffrey)
   7. Avantail as a firewall?? (Miorelli, Robert          CORP)
   8. Site to site VPN (Rick Brown)
   9. RE: choice netscreen / sidewinder (Hudson Delbert J Contr 61 CS/SCBN)
  10. Securing the FW-1 Firewall ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  11. RE: netscreen dip question. (bob bobing)
  12. Re: Site to site VPN (Adam Safier)

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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 23:04:11 -0800 (PST)
From: bob bobing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: netscreen dip question.
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

well after almost a week of playing phone tag with
netscreen support I'm going ask here, because i still
don't have any answer. Using a netscreen 10 is there
any way to setup a mip on the dmz? To the rest of the
world this means a static nat (netscreen must have
asked the linux folks for some names they dropped over
masquerading (Yes that was a joke)). I basically i
want to staticlly nat 2 ips on the dmz segment to 2
ips on the internal network. On 2.6.x this doesn't
seem to be an option.

Is this just a code issue, or is it a netscreen-10 issue?

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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 23:32:43 -0800
From: "vishwas asemend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: hardening of netware 5.0

Does anyone is having any links/documents for the netware 5.0 hardening.
Any suggestions will be appreciable

Thanks and regds
vish



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Message: 3
From: "Klaus Schulze" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'Gary Rose'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
        "'Clark, Steve'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: choice netscreen / sidewinder
Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 10:20:34 +0100

If you need an easy to configure firewall (firewall plus proxy plus
virusprotection) and VPN gateway, take Astaro Security Linux. Free
evaluation download is on their webpage www.astaro.com

Klaus

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Gary Rose
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 4:43 PM
To: Clark, Steve
Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: Re: choice netscreen / sidewinder


Secure Systems (maker of SideWinder) also bought the Gauntlet proxy=20
firewall and VPN technology from NAI and are incorporating the two=20
products.

http://www.nai.com/naicommon/aboutnai/press/pr_template.asp?PR=3D/PressMe=
d
ia/
02132002-B.asp&Sel=3D1219


-Gary

On Monday, February 25, 2002, at 06:59 AM, Clark, Steve wrote:

> Never heard of sidewinder. Netscreens all the way.
>
> Steve Clark
> Clark Systems Support, LLC
> AVIEN Charter Member
> "Who's watching your network?"
> www.clarksupport.com
>       301-610-9584 voice
>       240-465-0323 Efax
> =A0
> The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark

> Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged=20
> information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of=20
> others without the prior
> written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: VINTROU, Gilles [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 9:34 AM
> To: Firewalls (E-mail)
> Subject: choice netscreen / sidewinder
>
> Hello folks
>
> I'd like to know which firewall / vpn to choose between netscreen 25=20
> and sidewinder 5.2 ? it must be easy to configure , vpn compliant and=20
> secure enough
>
>
> Thanks for your answers
>
> GV
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Message: 4
Subject: RE: iFolder
Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 13:57:35 +0200
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Greg,

I may be mistaken, but if I recall correctly, iFolder password is =
transmited clear text, so that may be an issue, but I havn't worked with =
it for a while (since I did the pre pre pre course from Novell) and it =
may be different.

Mike

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>=20
> Aside from the risks involved with opening a port through the =
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> allowing the iFolder service?
>=20
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Message: 5
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 9:21:19 +0000
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Firewalls digest, Vol 1 #558 - 12 msgs

Gilles, as a reseller of both Netscreen and Sidewinder, I would advise
you as I advise all our potential customers=2E  If you are planning to
open inbound ports from the Internet to your internal network (or a DMZ)
for almost any common service, HTTP, FTP etc=2E  Then chose Sidewinder it
is an application level proxy Firewall, which is the most secure
currently available=2E

If you are planning to only provide outbound services (with the
exception of e-mail)=2E  Then it's your call, Netscreen will do the job
quite adequately, it is a stateful packet inspection Firewall which
should be fine for outbound stuff=2E

Adam Thompson

Message: 2
From: "VINTROU, Gilles" <GVINTROU@EKIP=2EFR>
To: "Firewalls (E-mail)" <firewalls@lists=2Egnac=2Enet>
Subject: choice netscreen / sidewinder
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 15:33:38 +0100

Hello folks

I'd like to know which firewall / vpn to choose between netscreen 25 and
sidewinder 5=2E2 ? it must be easy to configure , vpn compliant and secure
enough



Thanks for your answers

GV


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Message: 6
From: "Dell, Jeffrey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 'bob bobing' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: netscreen dip question.
Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 06:51:23 -0500

This is a code issue. With version 3.1 you will be able to do this, but
currently 3.1 is only for the Netscreen-25 and 50.

-----Original Message-----
From: bob bobing [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 2:04 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: netscreen dip question.


well after almost a week of playing phone tag with
netscreen support I'm going ask here, because i still
don't have any answer. Using a netscreen 10 is there
any way to setup a mip on the dmz? To the rest of the
world this means a static nat (netscreen must have
asked the linux folks for some names they dropped over
masquerading (Yes that was a joke)). I basically i
want to staticlly nat 2 ips on the dmz segment to 2
ips on the internal network. On 2.6.x this doesn't
seem to be an option.

Is this just a code issue, or is it a netscreen-10 issue?

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Message: 7
From: "Miorelli, Robert          CORP" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Avantail as a firewall??
Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 10:17:24 -0500

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We have been tasked with the job of letting authenticated users into our
network
via the internet.  One possible solution is an Avantail system where they
put their
rack of gear on our site and operate the 'firewall' on our behalf.  All
users use
their proprietary socks implementation.  What we gain is Avantail managing
the users
for us (their help desk, etc.).  We don't especially like this solution and
are
looking for alternatives before we commit to Aventail.  Any other similar
products
out there that people can recommend?  Any Avantail clients? Note that this
is not
our main firewall -- we have normal firewalls.  This is for a class of
authenticated
users who need special access that we do not handle on our current firewall.

Thanks for any suggestions.

-->BoB

Bob Miorelli
United Technologies Network Services
25 Holly Drive
Newington, CT  06111
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Phone:  (860) 665-1667
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behalf.&nbsp; All users use</FONT>
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is Avantail managing the users</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>for us (their help desk, etc.).&nbsp; We don't especially
like this solution and are</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>looking for alternatives before we commit to
Aventail.&nbsp; Any other similar products</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>out there that people can recommend?&nbsp; Any Avantail
clients? Note that this is not</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>our main firewall -- we have normal firewalls.&nbsp; This
is for a class of authenticated</FONT>
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current firewall.</FONT>
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 07:57:55 -0800 (PST)
From: Rick Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Site to site VPN
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I have to connect via VPN to another site and I need
some advice/insight.  Like everyone else, we have a
set number of public IP addresses.  The VPN is going
to be two way (i.e. site A needs to access site B
hosts and site B needs to access site A hosts).  I'm a
little fuzzy as to how to define the encryption
domain.  Our firewall is doing a HIDE NAT using the
public address of the firewall.  If I understand
things, if I use my entire public range as the
encryption domain, things should work but if a public
system is compromised they could potentially get VPN
access to the other site (right?).  Would static
mappings get around this and, if so, would I just
define a portion of the public range as the encryption
domain?  I'd like to not have to do static mappings so
that I don't use up a lot of IP addresses.  Any help
would be appreciated.  Thanks.

__________________________________________________
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Message: 9
From: Hudson Delbert J Contr 61 CS/SCBN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'Klaus Schulze'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
        "'Gary Rose'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
        "'Clark, Steve'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: choice netscreen / sidewinder
Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 08:13:17 -0800

Klaus,
        the question is which of netscreen or sidewinder is a better choice.
        focus on the parameters of the discussion and quit brown nosing
vendors.

piranha....

-----Original Message-----
From: Klaus Schulze [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 1:21 AM
To: 'Gary Rose'; 'Clark, Steve'
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: choice netscreen / sidewinder


If you need an easy to configure firewall (firewall plus proxy plus
virusprotection) and VPN gateway, take Astaro Security Linux. Free
evaluation download is on their webpage www.astaro.com

Klaus

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Gary Rose
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 4:43 PM
To: Clark, Steve
Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: Re: choice netscreen / sidewinder


Secure Systems (maker of SideWinder) also bought the Gauntlet proxy=20
firewall and VPN technology from NAI and are incorporating the two=20
products.

http://www.nai.com/naicommon/aboutnai/press/pr_template.asp?PR=3D/PressM=
ed
ia/
02132002-B.asp&Sel=3D1219


-Gary

On Monday, February 25, 2002, at 06:59 AM, Clark, Steve wrote:

> Never heard of sidewinder. Netscreens all the way.
>
> Steve Clark
> Clark Systems Support, LLC
> AVIEN Charter Member
> "Who's watching your network?"
> www.clarksupport.com
>       301-610-9584 voice
>       240-465-0323 Efax
> =A0
> The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by =
Clark

> Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged=20
> information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of=20
> others without the prior
> written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: VINTROU, Gilles [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 9:34 AM
> To: Firewalls (E-mail)
> Subject: choice netscreen / sidewinder
>
> Hello folks
>
> I'd like to know which firewall / vpn to choose between netscreen 25=20
> and sidewinder 5.2 ? it must be easy to configure , vpn compliant and =

> secure enough
>
>
> Thanks for your answers
>
> GV
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Message: 10
Subject: Securing the FW-1 Firewall
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 16:17:09 +0000

Hi All,

I have FW-1 on Nokia.
I have implemented VRRP as part of the fw-1/Nokia failover solution, and
therefore have both "real" and "virual" addresses for my interfaces.
I have closed the firewall as best as I am allowed (I need to let some
remote systems "ping"), but still the "real" IP address of each interface
is being shown in traceroutes !!     What have I missed ? - how do I make
my fw-1 totally anonymous ?

Just in case I missed anything else, what are the general guidelines for
securing the fw-1 ??
I have all my management activity limited to a completely separate, secured
lan and I only have specific rules (ie. the only "any" destinations I have
are either for port 80 or for "drop" actions). I have anti-spoofing set as
recommended, but i do not have SYNdefender active as yet.
Anything else ? .............................

Cheers, Gordon


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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 08:25:18 -0800 (PST)
From: bob bobing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: netscreen dip question.
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

you would think that someone in support would have
known this, and could have left me a voice mail saying
that.

thanks!

--- "Dell, Jeffrey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This is a code issue. With version 3.1 you will be
> able to do this, but
> currently 3.1 is only for the Netscreen-25 and 50.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bob bobing [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 2:04 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: netscreen dip question.
>
>
> well after almost a week of playing phone tag with
> netscreen support I'm going ask here, because i
> still
> don't have any answer. Using a netscreen 10 is there
> any way to setup a mip on the dmz? To the rest of
> the
> world this means a static nat (netscreen must have
> asked the linux folks for some names they dropped
> over
> masquerading (Yes that was a joke)). I basically i
> want to staticlly nat 2 ips on the dmz segment to 2
> ips on the internal network. On 2.6.x this doesn't
> seem to be an option.
>
> Is this just a code issue, or is it a netscreen-10
> issue?
>
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Message: 12
From: "Adam Safier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Rick Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
        <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Site to site VPN
Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 12:41:50 -0500

Your encryption domain should be your hidden network - not your internet
visible IP's.  That would make your hidden IP's visible to the remote VPN
site.  Otherwise you are stuck with static NAT.

The VPN gateway's external IP needs to be seen by the remote VPN gateway.

Yes, if you have a VPN and one of the machines gets compromised at one end
then the other end could be vulnerable.  Use your rules to specify which
individual systems may access which other systems using which protocols.
That might help a little.

Think of Site to Site VPN like a leased line, even though you are using the
public network. Your rules are ACL's.  User authentication still needs to
occur on the internal network and I like to have an IDS to monitor for
"friendly fire" (attacks from "trusted" users or business partners.)

Adam


Adam Safier
Global Systems & Strategies, Inc (GSS)
7000 Security Blvd, Suite 300
Baltimore, Md. 21244
(443) 436-6393
(410) 281-9193 (Main)
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Rick Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 10:57 AM
Subject: Site to site VPN


> I have to connect via VPN to another site and I need
> some advice/insight.  Like everyone else, we have a
> set number of public IP addresses.  The VPN is going
> to be two way (i.e. site A needs to access site B
> hosts and site B needs to access site A hosts).  I'm a
> little fuzzy as to how to define the encryption
> domain.  Our firewall is doing a HIDE NAT using the
> public address of the firewall.  If I understand
> things, if I use my entire public range as the
> encryption domain, things should work but if a public
> system is compromised they could potentially get VPN
> access to the other site (right?).  Would static
> mappings get around this and, if so, would I just
> define a portion of the public range as the encryption
> domain?  I'd like to not have to do static mappings so
> that I don't use up a lot of IP addresses.  Any help
> would be appreciated.  Thanks.
>
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