hi ya dg

we dont allow any ppp/slip ... :-)
we dont allow dhcp either...
we dont allow wireless connection either..
we dont allow pop3/imap... 
        ( pop3s ..maybe if they beg 
        ( ie..the ceo types and know that it could be a big problem later

dont allow --->  no connections to any machine that i know about
nor is it configured to support it

but yeah... lots of whacky stuff people can do
to get their insecure stuff up and going...
stuff to bypass in-house policy... and i a machine breaks
as a result... they'd be in a heap-o-trouble

- last question they asked was...

        - how do we make sure people dont upload/transfer stuff
        from here to the competitors... :-)

        - btw.. they all have laptops :-) they bring in and leave as
        they feel like... 

have fun firewalling
alvin

dumb question ... 
        - why is VPN needed ??? ssh seems to do everything i need
        - if its (VPN) for network neighborhood to go browsing...
         shoot it/kill it/stomp it (network neighborhood)... 

On Wed, 27 Feb 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> On 27 Feb 2002, at 3:42, Alvin Oga wrote:
> 
> > pptp is not secure enough....
> > 
> > i tend NOT to allow vpn internally or from outside....
> >     ( guess just me being nuts-o )
> >     ( ssh-only... from inside or outside...
> 
>   Guess what:  Any user who runs PPP over their SSH session has got a 
> VPN going, one that you don't know about and can't police.
>  
> DG

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