Damn you're good!
that's something i can't debate about!.

Thanks for all the help

-Shay Hugi
-Mpthrill.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mikael Olsson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Shay Hugi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 2:07 PM
Subject: Re: Firewall managment through SNMP (Was: Re: a web management
system for the NetGAP firewall appliance(off-topic))


>
> Shay Hugi wrote:
> >
> > i'm not talking about enterprise class firewalls here. i'm talking about
> > Adminiweb & NetGAP. that's it.
>
> Ah, yes, that's what it started out as. But as usual, the regulars
> here (myself included) can't keep away from a good argument :)
>
>
> > i wanted to hear is your opinions, all i've heard
> > since was: my CheckPoint is bigger.
>
> Nah. I don't run Checkpoint boxen :)
>
>
> > again... i'm not sure if you even worked with NetGAP.
>
> Nope.  I refuse to use anything calling itself a "gap" on principle,
> when it's really only an application layer gateway. Real air gaps
> are just that: gaps. Two systems separated by air, possibly with
> an operator moving data back and forth using floppies/tapes/whatever,
> and thoroughly inspecting it manually before completing the move.
>
>
> > and belive me.. administrating Golden-Channels network. 470,000
Customers.
> > demands a lot.
> > i won't copy the ifconfig file of our NG powered by StoneBeat Full
Cluster,
> > because it'll embarcing for you to brag about 6 interfaces.
>
> Not really embarassing. Your examples and views seemed to stem from the
> classic int/ext/dmz world. I just exemplified where my views come from.
> (Although I agree I may have misinterpreted your arguments completely)
>
> > when and if you'll work with Adminiweb & NetGAP.. come back with an
answer.
>
> Never let lack of experience with a specific product stand in the
> way of a good generalized debate :)
>
>
> > (Troll? another slashdot geek. ohh god. maybe you wanna r00t my b0x)
>
> "Troll" was popularized on the usenet, long before the mr Berners-Lee
> et al even thought of putting three "W"s together, and certainly
> before slashdot.
>
> r00t your b0x?  That would indeed agree very poorly with my
> principles and what I do for a living. Now, if you were to _pay_
> me to make the attempt, it'd be another thing altogether :)
>
>
> Lighten up; I'm only debating, not attacking you personally :)
>
>
> Regards,
> Mikael Olsson
>
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>

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