Title: Re: [Fis] General Question: Definition of information
Lauri Gröhn wrote on 3/16/06:
On 16.3.2006, at 12.16, Karl Javorszky wrote:

Thank you for focusing on the core of the work. I have tried to find the
main points of Marcin's "general question", which in a way is an answer to
Richard's wish for a definition of information.

I just wonder this:

Must one know the molecule structure of water before one can swim?

But Lauri, it isn't about swimming but understanding what swimming is.

I suppose there are all sorts of motivations for this, and I have pressed FIS to list them because I believe no useful "definitions" can result unless we scope to what use they are to be put. To stick with the swimming analogy, my own motivation is to cast the entire world in all dimensions as much into "swimming" as I can. This includes my own inept paddling as well as that of other organisms large and small, chemical and elementary, natural and artificial (using whatever definition of artificial you wish), in solitary and societal configurations (again using any notion of "society").

My hope is that the notion of the analogous "swimming" is so rich and amenable to codifications where necessary that it can serve as a basis for understanding and participating in the world. Swimming to me necessarily involves a certain lucidity about the medium.

One can choose to just be blind, I suppose. But they won't be the folks you'd find here.

So goes my first allowed message of the week. I use this part of my allowance because it segues into the ethics topic. The link between ethics and information for me is in the motivation. I choose to explore building a new science informed by information because in part it places my mind in the world as an agent in some way as a citizen.

With this, I can then use the vehicle of whatever science of information that results to "carry" notions (presumably retailored ones) like ethics to cells and particles, and understand both why and how I swim in the world, but how it swims in me.

Best, Ted


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Ted Goranson
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