reply to Karl:

In fact I meant "it creates informational entropy" for an external observer.

For the sake of precision, we may say that diversity neither get created nor it 
is always there - it evolves - initially there was no diversity at all,  than 
it increased discontinuously in evolutionary time.

Best
Igor

----- Original Message ----- 
  From: karl javorszky 
  To: fis@listas.unizar.es 
  Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 1:00 PM
  Subject: Re: [Fis] Continuing Discussion of Social and Cultural Complexity


  Let me add to Igor's points about instability: 
  "Redundancy/diversity, on
  the other hand, is essential ... It creates informational entropy and gives a 
momentum to
  material/energy entropy production ..."
  that 
  redundancy/diversity DOES NOT GET CREATED it isd always there, but we choose 
to neglect it, because Darwin has preferred those who recognise the constant, 
alike, similar before the background of diversity and similarity. 
  The background DOES NOT GET CREATED by the figures in the foreground, it is 
there.
  In our case, it is the background of discontinuity before which we recognise 
the uniformity, continuity and existence of our logical units.
  Karl


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