Steven -- > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Steven Ericsson Zenith <ste...@semeiosis.org> > Date: Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 2:56 PM > Subject: [Fis] On the Origin of Gravity and the Laws of Newton > To: Foundations of Information Science Information Science < > fis@listas.unizar.es> > > Dear List, > > I bring Erik Verlinde's recent paper to your attention because it > highlights some foundational issues in Information Science and the general > use of the notion of "Information" in physics. > > Here is the paper: > > On the Origin of Gravity and the Laws of Newton > http://arxiv.org/abs/1001.0785 > > The paper has attracted a lot of attention and Lee Smolin's response, also > on arvix, is really what made me begin to look at this question seriously. > Though various people have been bringing the paper to my attention since it > was first published in January. > > Verlinde appeals to a notion of an "entropic force" associated with a > conception of information and frankly I'm puzzled by it. What, exactly, does > he refer to I wonder and how does it relate to Shannon, if at all? >
One perspective on this might be found in: Frautschi, S. (1982) “Entropy in an expanding universe”. Science 217, 593-599. Frautschi, S. (1988) “Entropy in an expanding universe.” in B.H. Weber, D.J. Depew and J.D. Smith, eds. Entropy, Information and Evolution. Cambridge, MA: MIT Press. And Landsberg, P.T. (1984) Can entropy and “order” increase together? Physics Letters 102A, 171-173. And Layzer, D. 1977. Information in cosmology, physics and biology. International Journal of Quantum Chemistry 12 (supplement 1) 185-195. Basically, in an expanding or growing system much entropy production is mediated by information AND creates more information while doing it. STAN > My initial view is to suspect that the paper is a work of pure metaphysics > and not physics at all. But then I ask myself to what degree it is less > metaphysical than anything else we see in physics today. So I reserve > judgement until I have given the matter more consideration. > > Anyone else concerned by this? > > With respect, > Steven > > > -- > Dr. Steven Ericsson-Zenith > Institute for Advanced Science & Engineering > http://iase.info > http://senses.info > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > fis mailing list > fis@listas.unizar.es > https://webmail.unizar.es/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fis > >
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