Quoting John Collier <colli...@ukzn.ac.za>:

"As I have tried to argue above, to avoid reductionism in reality as  
opposed to in logic and mathematics I think we need the additional  
condition of dissipation (what I call nonHamiltonian mechanics  
elsewhere -- the usual condition of conservation breaks down due to  
the loss of free energy to the system)."


Your point underscores my earlier one. Dissipation is emblematic of  
entropic processes -- which make ours an open world. There's no  
wishing that away!


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