Dear Loet, Dear Pedro and All, Loet's question is as interesting as it was new and unexpected. I suggest one has to proceed in steps: 1) acknowledge that three-way interactions are possible; 2) find a way of insuring that the "synergy" includes both attractive (supporting) characteristics and repulsive (antagonistic) characteristics; 3) accept that measurement of the synergy can include both qualitative and quantitative parameters; 4) if one then says, following Craciunescu, that each of the the three is the "included middle" between the other two, one has the further aspect of emergence to work with: science emerging from consideration of the relation between philosophy and a concept of information and so on. Thank you and best wishes, Joseph ----Ursprüngliche Nachricht---- Von: [email protected] Datum: 11.02.2013 17:03 An: "'Pedro C. Marijuan'"<[email protected]>, <[email protected]> Betreff: Re: [Fis] [Fwd: SV: Science, Philosophy and Information. An Alternative Relation] S.Brier How does one measure the synergy among three discourses? That is an interesting question within information theory (as part of both science and philosophy). Best, Loet -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Pedro C. Marijuan Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 4:29 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [Fis] [Fwd: SV: Science, Philosophy and Information. An Alternative Relation] S.Brier -------- Original Message -------- Subject: SV: [Fis] Science, Philosophy and Information. An Alternative Relation Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2013 20:32:04 +0100 From: Søren Brier <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]>, Pedro Clemente Marijuan Fernandez <[email protected]>, [email protected] <[email protected]>, John Collier <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]> Dear Joseph I go for each of the three nominally independent disciplines are not independent, but that each provides a dynamic ontological and epistemological link to the other two, more or less strong or "actual" depending on the extent to which one wishes to emphasize certain aspects of knowledge. Science without philosophy is stupid but philosophy without science is blind. I am for a synergetic interaction. Best wishes Søren Brier Professor in the semiotics of information, cognition and commmunication science,department of International Business Communication, Copenhagen Business School, Dalgas Have 15, 2000 Frederiksberg, Denmark, *Fra:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *På vegne af *[email protected] *Sendt:* 7. februar 2013 17:37 *Til:* Pedro Clemente Marijuan Fernandez; [email protected]; John Collier *Emne:* [Fis] Science, Philosophy and Information. An Alternative Relation Dear FIS Colleagues, The formation of the the Society for the Philosophy of Information at the University of Hertfordshire is announced in the link in John's note. It includes the announcement and Call for Papers of the International Conference on the Philosophy of Information to be held in Xi'An, China in October, 2013, sponsored by both the above Society, led by Professor Luciano Floridi and the Institute for the Philosophy of Information in Xi'An under the direction of Professor Wu Kun. This increased activity in the area of the philosophy of information (another major Workshop is planned this Spring) raises the issue of the relation between the science and philosophy of information as well as of the philosophy of science. I am aware of and agree with the position expressed by Pedro that information science in the FIS framework should emphasize scientific research in the sense of knowledge that is quantifiable and/or provable. However, I do not believe that either he or others of you intend to exclude rigorous qualitative knowledge, especially as it concerns the dual nature of information. The ubiquitous presence of information in all disciplines, as emphasized by Wu, suggests an alternative relation linking philosophy, science and information that is NOT one of simple hierarchical inclusion or possession ("of"). One possibility is to say that it is information that links philosophy and science, but this formulation perhaps fails to recognize the general properties of the latter two. Another possibility is to say that each of the three nominally independent disciplines are not independent, but that each provides a dynamic ontological and epistemological link to the other two, more or less strong or "actual" depending on the extent to which one wishes to emphasize certain aspects of knowledge. I look forward to your comments regarding the pros and cons of such a conception. Thank you. Best wishes, Joseph ----Ursprüngliche Nachricht---- Von: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> Datum: 04.02.2013 18:57 An: "fis"<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> Betreff: [Fis] Society for the Philosophy of Information http://www.socphilinfo.org/ ---------- Professor John Collier [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> Philosophy and Ethics, University of KwaZulu-Natal, Durban 4041 South Africa T: +27 (31) 260 3248 / 260 2292 F: +27 (31) 260 3031 <http://web.ncf.ca/collier>http://web.ncf<http://web.ncf.ca/collier>.ca/coll ier <http://web.ncf%3chttp:/web.ncf.ca/collier%3e.ca/collier> _______________________________________________ fis mailing list [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> https://webmail.unizar.es/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fis -- ------------------------------------------------- Pedro C. Marijuán Grupo de Bioinformación / Bioinformation Group Instituto Aragonés de Ciencias de la Salud Centro de Investigación Biomédica de Aragón (CIBA) Avda. 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