Dear Francesco, Thank you for a most interesting overview of your work. What I would be most interested in would be a summary of the real processes underlying "trans-in-form-action" and its relation to information - and "trans-information". The use of the prefix 'trans-' in transdisciplinarity is intended (by Nicolescu) to refer to something that lies within, between and beyond specific disciplines. Another non-trivial use of 'trans-' was made by Pedro.
(Some 14 years ago, I defined 'trans-creation' as the creation of artistic documents or objects with some social relevance, that is, to the common good. It is important to understand, in this connection, how information carries such relevance.) If you prefer to answer in Italian rather than English, unless there is someone else in the group with Italian-language skills, I would undertake to make a rough translation (or edit a machine-translation). Best regards, Joseph (Joseph E. Brenner, Ph.D.) VP-Inter-and Transdisciplinarity, International Society for Information Science) ----- Original Message ----- From: Francesco Rizzo To: Pedro C. Marijuan Cc: fis@listas.unizar.es Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2014 4:31 PM Subject: Re: [Fis] Information Science and the City Caro Pedro e cari tutti, mi permetto di segnalarVi che la mia "Nuova economia" è basata sul processo di tras-in-form-azione. Si cfr. a tal proposito, fra i tanti altri: -Rizzo F., ""Valore e valutazioni. La scienza dell'economia o l'economia della scienza", FancoAngeli, Milano 1999; -Rizzo F., "Nuova economia. Felicità del lavoro creativo e della conservazione della natura. Infelicità della speculazione finanziaria", Aracne editrice, Roma, 2013; -Rizzo F., "Incontro d'amore tra il cuore della fede e l'intelligenza della scienza. Un salto nel cielo", Aracne editrice, Roma 2014. Ho dedicato mezzo secolo di ricerca per ri-comprendere e ri-significare la scienza economica. Quello che scrivo non è una presunzione. Auguri per un'intensa ripresa e grazie. Francesco Rizzo. 2014-06-05 14:25 GMT+02:00 Pedro C. Marijuan <pcmarijuan.i...@aragon.es>: Dear FISers, Among the many interesting themes where the information science perspective may provide useful orientations, cities are one of the most singular. A recent work by Michel Batty on the New Science of Cities (2013, MIT) makes a lot of connections with our oft discussed info topics. A Communication Theory of Urban Growth was developed by Richard Meier (1962); a fluxes perspective was already attempted by Patrick Geddes (1949). In essence I have found that the idea of information flows and material flows as catching and intertwining each other, with their highly different regimes, heterogeneity and energy contents, appears as an important focus in order to better understand the globalized city. Scaling is one of the essential concepts... I am not aware that scaling has been applied to the informational analysis itself (obviously it is the cornerstone of self-similarity). What I mean is that a micro-level of communication analysis may be quite different from the meso-level, and the from macro-level. Thinking in the human case (biologically it could make sense too) the micro level is dominated by syntaxis, by a Shannonian type of analysis on messages emitted from a sourced to a receiver. The meso level contains meaning, value (fitness), purpose, and in general it implies the communication associated to the behavioral episodes and living rhythms of individuals. While in the macro level, many individuals' actions, works, products, etc. are aggregated into fluxes or flows, basically of two kinds those devoted to the material (self-production) and those carrying the info stuff devoted to communication; then it invites analysis of network science, operations research, economic efficiency, etc., and of course the direct flow perspective as Bejan and Peder (2011) have attempted in one of the most interesting theories on self-constructing flow systems. Depending on the information perspective in which we observe human communication, we will need one or another lens to better make sense of what is happening. My impression is that a more mature info science could be quite helpful in this new field of urban development science --most people nowadays are living in cities. Top down planning will fail if it is does not match with the bottom up processes, both in communication and self-production aspects. Keeping an adequate social flow of information, a well-mixed regime of communication, is the essence of democracy. The contemporary "epidemics of loneliness" for instance may be due among other social and demographic causes to failures in bureaucratic high level planning... best ---Pedro PS. After the nasty computer crash months ago, we should try to enliven the list--shouldn't we? -- ------------------------------------------------- Pedro C. Marijuán Grupo de Bioinformación / Bioinformation Group Instituto Aragonés de Ciencias de la Salud Centro de Investigación Biomédica de Aragón (CIBA) Avda. 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