Dear FISers,
Herewith my contribution to the "poetic intelligence" tangent we have
entered.
It is in Spanish, from the great poet Antonio Machado:
Caminante, son tus huellas
el camino y nada más;
Caminante, no hay camino,
se hace camino al andar.
Al andar se hace el camino,
y al volver la vista atrás
se ve la senda que nunca
se ha de volver a pisar.
Caminante no hay camino
sino estelas en la mar.
One English translation could say:
“Wanderer, your footsteps are the road, and nothing more; wanderer,
there is no road, the road is made by walking. By walking one makes the
road, and upon glancing behind one sees the path that never will be trod
again. Wanderer, there is no road-- Only wakes upon the sea."
I find it quite moving, and extremely complex on its meaning, quite
"phenomenological" and deeply neurophilosophical. But above all, impressive.
Thanks are due to Chuan, Stan, Joseph, Francesco... et al.
best---Pedro
Lee todo en: Caminante no hay camino - Poemas de Antonio Machado
<http://www.poemas-del-alma.com/antonio-machado-caminante-no-hay-camino.htm#ixzz3Uv6PQoJo>
http://www.poemas-del-alma.com/antonio-machado-caminante-no-hay-camino.htm#ixzz3Uv6PQoJo
Francesco Rizzo wrote:
Caro Joseph e cari Tutti,
anche se rischio di essere bloccato o frainteso perché non ho voce
linguistica di moda, nei numerosi interventi precedenti ho
sottolineato l'importanza della parola composta emo-ra-zionalità,
risultato della combinazione della "intelligenza emotiva" e della
razionalità intellettuale. Nessuna descrizione non poetica della
realtà può essere completa. Ilya Prigogine ha proposto di adottare nel
campo della scienza il paradigma della musica. Henri Poincarè ritiene,
talvolta, le equazioni o le funzione un "museo teratologico" ed i
modelli paradigmatici una scelta "convenzionale" o di comodità o di
utilità. In "Incontro d'amore del cuore della fede e dell'intelligenza
della scienza" (Aracne editrice, Roma, 2014) ho sostenuto la necessità
del dialogo tra fede, ragione e scienza. Albert Einstein afferma che
ciò che si può contare (computare) non conta e ciò che conta non si
può contare (computare). Secondo John D. Barrow che gli "aspetti
eventuali" del mondo non si possono riconoscere o generare con una
sequenza di passi logici. La bellezza, la semplicità, la verità sono
tutte, in questo senso, "proprietà eventuali". Non c'è alcuna formula
magica o nessun programma o nessuna equazione che può generare tutta
la bellezza o tutta la bruttezza del mondo. Le mail che ho inviato il
10, 15 e 18 marzo (non solo quest'ultima) in modo telegrafico
affrontano questa problematica, purtroppo, non sono state tenute in
considerazione. Ciò mi dispiace, ma non mi spinge a trascurare i
contributi di tutti Voi che ringrazio per quanto m'insegnate. Grazie e
affettuosi saluti.
Francesco Rizzo.
2015-03-19 19:27 GMT+01:00 joe.bren...@bluewin.ch
<mailto:joe.bren...@bluewin.ch> <joe.bren...@bluewin.ch
<mailto:joe.bren...@bluewin.ch>>:
Dear Chuan, Rafael and All,
There is a point in this exchange which perhaps should be
addressed explicitly: everybody knows that people differ in their
capacity to appreciate poetry emotionally. But we also differ in
the capacity to appreciate the importance of poetry and art for
science; this might be said to require an
'intelligence' of poetry. Perhaps someone else can express better
what I am trying to say here.
Best wishes,
Joseph
P.S. Admirers of Basho's haiku are directed to his far superior
one to which this is a Californian response:
Warm cloudy day in Spring
Perched on a fresh leafy branch
A young tow-hee
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De : raf...@capurro.de <mailto:raf...@capurro.de>
Date : 19/03/2015 - 08:35 (PST)
À : fis@listas.unizar.es <mailto:fis@listas.unizar.es>
Objet : Re: [Fis] Chuan's reply8 - THE FRONTIERS OF
INTELLIGENCE SCIENCE-- an old poem as an echo
Dear Chuan,
thanks for sharing this poem.
Allow me to thank you also with these texts where I try to
reflect on Dao and Information Society
http://www.capurro.de/china_infoethics2010.html
This is a Chinese translation:
http://www.capurro.de/beijing2011_chinese_version.pdf
See also: http://www.capurro.de/DB_Akademie.html
See also my activities and presentations in China:
http://www.capurro.de/home-cn.html
best regards
Rafael Capurro
Dear Stanley N Salthe and All,
I am back to my duty from ten days hard work.
Reliving from tired let me come back to the breakpoint –
Stanley’s poem echo to Emily – and my draft reply as a new
poem the same. I will finish and put out next mail – reply as
another poem is “The Song of the Computer” and another poem
on Internet. These two have send in our FIS years ago. And
now “here a stay, and there a star”, now “ struggling to
affect each other from our slowly burning bodies”, let us put
these stars here again as a bunch of flower first.
Let this as my echo. We can image a Science fiction:
long long after, there is a country, there set such an law :
if you have not replied an poet’s poem at once, if delay five
days, you are evil. So let me use an old poem echo your poem
as soon as I finished my heavy work.
Thanks for you poem. That is nice!
More reply and the new later.
Best wishes,
Chuan
2015-3-19
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*主题:* Re: [Fis] Chuan's reply7 - THE FRONTIERS OF
INTELLIGENCE SCIENCE-- a poem & the π-festival
Chuan, fis'rs
Here is a poem I wrote a couple of years ago:
internet fellowship
is like --
being in heaven?
we’re
disembodied spirits
struggling to affect
each other.
patterns of ‘on and off’ in the waves and wires
like cells in an organism
we’re disembodied spirits launched from our slowly
burning bodies,
the fuel for our cognitions,
like charcoal for a flame
maybe this is (what) heaven (is like)
launched upon the embers of hell.
STAN
On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 11:18 AM, 赵川 <zh...@cdut.edu.cn
<mailto:zh...@cdut.edu.cn>> wrote:
*Dear FISers, *
These days I am doing a heavy and important
work that I can not finish my respond mail. Though
there are many ideas emerge in my mind.
Let me put a poem of Emily DIKINSON in our
dear discussion.
*OUR SHARE OF NIGHT TO BEAR*
Emily DIKINSON
Our share of nights to hear –
Our share of morning –
Our blank in bliss to fill
Our blank in scorning –
Here a star, and there a star,
Some lose their way!
Here a mist, and there a mist,
Afterwards – Day!
1890
c.1859
For I thought of the image of “here is a
star, and there is a star” and looked for this poem
to share here. Let us shine and share.
Dear Joseph, I agree with the Stanislaw
Lem’s opinion.
Yes, she is right: afterwards – Day!
Tomorrow is π-festival – March 14 - 3.14. I
celebrated aπ-festival this afternoon. That is
wonderful. And it is the birthday of Einstein the same.
Cheers!
Chuan
March 13, 2015
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