Caro John, Caro Nikhil e Cari Tutti, l'economia necessaria per l'allievo di J. Collier io l'ho scritta e pubblicata dagli inizi degli anni Ottanta, allorché affrontando l'analisi dell'economia dei beni culturali o del patrimonio architettonico-ambientale ho inventato una nuova teoria del valore economico fondata proprio sulla combinazione dell'informazione e della neg-entropia. Un abbraccio augurale, anche natalizio, per Tutti a partire da Pedro. Francesco Rizzo.
2015-12-17 11:03 GMT+01:00 John Collier <[email protected]>: > Interesting post, Nikhil. One of my PhD students is doing his thesis on > egalitarian (living system) centred morality. He is not aiming to draw > moral conclusions, but to lay out a coherent position based in complexity > theory, especially in the work of Paul Cilliers (who he studied with for > his MA) and myself. > > > > Extension to include the values of all living systems within economics is > a natural extension of my student’s work, though he has enough on his plate > right now. > > > > John Collier > > Professor Emeritus, UKZN > > http://web.ncf.ca/collier > > > > *From:* Fis [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Nikhil > Joshi > *Sent:* Thursday, 17 December 2015 10:53 > *To:* FIS Group > *Cc:* Nikhil Joshi > *Subject:* [Fis] Sustainability through multilevel research: The Lifel, > Deep Society Build-A-Thon - 1 > > > > Dear All, > > The research presented here is focused on gleaning insights leading to new > solutions to the economics vs ecosystem conflict. The roots of many of our > problems in ecological sustainability lie in the fact that our > socio-economic systems are largely focused on fulfilling only human needs > and the needs of human organizations. In doing so, as pointed out by Pedro, > Bob, Francesco and others in this group our economics largely ignores the > productive value of our ecosystems and the true costs of our development on > our life supporting living systems. > > > > I term such a society as a “shallow society”, a society that is focused on > the development of a single species and largely ignores the value of its > own life-supporting living systems. With global population predicted to > grow to 9 billion people, the next level of human development requires a > transition of human society from being a “shallow society” that is only > focused on only human needs to what I call a “deep society”. A deep society > is a society that includes all living systems in its development. > > > > In this view, a deep society is not only focused on needs of human beings > and their organizations but its development models also include development > of the entire gamut of life-supporting living systems. Such a society grows > not by exploiting the resources of a living planet, but also it possesses > the capability to nurture, grow and actively manage a “living planet” > (and perhaps seed life on other planets as well). Human development in the > future will require the creation of new capabilities to develop models > leading to a deep society. The question then is- can we develop systems > that will enable a fair-value reciprocity and exchange between living > ecosystems and economic systems? > > > > While, the notion that economics does not adequately value natural systems > has been highlighted by many researchers in the field of ecological > economics. Ideas on how natural systems can be understood, valued and > integrated into economics have remained elusive. A multilevel view (like > the one presented here) allows one to compare socio-economic organizations > with natural organizations and could also provide new insights into how the > dynamics of natural ecosystems could be synergised with economic systems. > > The model presented in the kick-off session shows two levels of > energetically and materially coupled exchange networks in ecosystems. At > the first level of exchange networks geochemical molecules are organized > into different autotrophic species, and modulated by Mycorrhiza (level 1). > Different autotrophic species then become food for the different > heterotrophic species hence giving rise to the next higher level of > exchange networks in ecosystems, modulated by gut bacterial networks (Level > 2). The question then is- how does nature organize to build-in synergies > between these two levels? > > At level 1, Mycorrhiza networks are known to modulate growth rates across > different autotrophic species by providing phosphorous to different > autotrophic species in quantitative exchange for carbohydrates. Autotrophic > species (or groups of autotrophic species) that provide more carbohydrate > hence get more phosphorous. Hence carbohydrates play a role in influencing > phosphorous allocation across different autotrophic species connected to a > Mycorrhiza network. At the next higher level in the exchange networks > between different autotrophic species and different heterotrophic species > gut bacteria use carbohydrates to modulate growth rates in heterotrophic > species. Hence carbohydrates seem to play a role both in influencing > dynamics in exchange networks at level 1, as well as in influencing > dynamics in exchange networks at level 2. > > *Could such an organization where carbohydrates are a common influencing > factor in exchanges at both levels serve to align both levels towards > increasing overall carbohydrate production in ecosystems (hence increasing > the overall primary production in ecosystems) by synergizing dynamics > across both levels (and two different modulator networks)?* > > *Could this two-level role of carbohydrates provide new insights on > aligning the third level of exchange networks (and our financial investment > networks) with underling ecosystem exchange networks at level 1 and 2? * > > At this stage, these and other ideas presented here require much further > assessment and development. Nevertheless, at this early stage of > development they seem to provide a different vantage to view multilevel > living systems. Can multilevel research help in uncovering new ideas and > insights to understand multilevel systems, and align economics and > ecosystems? > > > > Your views, comments and feedback are much appreciated. > > > > Thanking you, > > > > Warm regards, > > > > Nikhil Joshi > > _______________________________________________ > Fis mailing list > [email protected] > http://listas.unizar.es/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fis > >
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