re: quarks the big question for FIS is this: do quarks communicate? and can their communications be called informational? are quarks more than just the first bits of matter in the cosmos? are they also the first socializers? the first team-makers? with oomph--howard ____________ Howard Bloom Author of: The Lucifer Principle: A Scientific Expedition Into the Forces of History ("mesmerizing"-The Washington Post), Global Brain: The Evolution of Mass Mind From The Big Bang to the 21st Century ("reassuring and sobering"-The New Yorker), The Genius of the Beast: A Radical Re-Vision of Capitalism ("A tremendously enjoyable book." James Fallows, National Correspondent, The Atlantic), The God Problem: How A Godless Cosmos Creates ("Bloom's argument will rock your world." Barbara Ehrenreich), How I Accidentally Started the Sixties ("Wow! Whew! Wild! Wonderful!" Timothy Leary), and The Mohammed Code ("A terrifying book…the best book I've read on Islam." David Swindle, PJ Media). www.howardbloom.net Former Core Faculty Member, The Graduate Institute; Former Visiting Scholar-Graduate Psychology Department, New York University. Founder: International Paleopsychology Project; Founder, Space Development Steering Committee; Founder: The Group Selection Squad; Founding Board Member: Epic of Evolution Society; Founding Board Member, The Darwin Project; Founder: The Big Bang Tango Media Lab; member: New York Academy of Sciences, American Association for the Advancement of Science, American Psychological Society, Academy of Political Science, Human Behavior and Evolution Society, International Society for Human Ethology, Scientific Advisory Board Member, Lifeboat Foundation; Editorial Board Member, Journal of Space Philosophy; Board member and member of Board of Governors, National Space Society.
In a message dated 1/16/2016 11:48:34 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, lo...@physics.utoronto.ca writes: Stan et al - you honour me by asking the question. We know that matter (and here I do not include dark matter or dark energy) is made up of a small number of quarks and gluons. As we go higher and higher energy we will continue to create these "freaks of nature" freaks in the sense that we create the conditions for them to come into existence using our high energy colliders. I am sure they sometimes occur naturally in stars from time to time but they do not have any long term effects - they are a passing fancy, a novelty, and an amusing one at that. Perhaps they will help us understand the quark gluon interaction. The analogy I see with the transition from prokaryotes to eukaryotes that I sent to Malcolm was my indulging in scientific based poetry. BTW I teach an undergrad course since 1971 called the Poetry of Physics (also the title of a book available on Amazon) to teach physics to humanities students without using math to promote science literacy among humanists. Another analogy that came to mind was that of proliferation of nucleic acids made up of the same 4 elements: C, G, A, and T. They are the quarks of biology and their chemical bonds the gluons. Metaphorically your - Bob Logan ______________________ Robert K. Logan Prof. Emeritus - Physics - U. of Toronto Fellow University of St. Michael's College Chief Scientist - sLab at OCAD http://utoronto.academia.edu/RobertKLogan _www.physics.utoronto.ca/Members/logan_ (http://www.physics.utoronto.ca/Members/logan) _www.researchgate.net/profile/Robert_Logan5/publications_ (http://www.researchgate.net/profile/Robert_Logan5/publications) On 2016-01-16, at 10:33 AM, Stanley N Salthe wrote: One way to complicate anything is to smash it into bits. I wonder, Bob, if you would comment on this point as a former particle physicist! STAN On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 11:13 PM, Malcolm Dean <email@example.com_ (mailto:malcolmd...@gmail.com) > wrote: Yes. I don't know enough about Biology, but I noticed the 3+2 business some time ago. I'm automatically suspicious of theories which are "vexingly complex" (QCD) and only "beautiful" (String Theory) to a few people with certain math backgrounds. But the Two and the Three have been important to humans for thousands of years. I think Nature is actually very simple, but we get overwhelmed and confused by its enormous scales and by our attempts to manage observation by (necessarily) creating over-simplified Objects. M. Malcolm Dean Member, _Higher Cognitive Affinity Group, BRI_ (http://www.bri.ucla.edu/research/affinity-groups/higher-cognitive-function-in-neural-integration-affinit y-group) Research Affiliate, _Human Complex Systems, UCLA_ (http://intersci.ss.uci.edu/wiki/index.php/Malcolm_Dean) Member, _BAFTA/LA_ (http://baftala.org/) On _Google Scholar_ (http://scholar.google.com/citations?user=ZopY3eQAAAAJ&hl=en) On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 6:47 PM, Bob Logan <firstname.lastname@example.org_ (mailto:lo...@physics.utoronto.ca) > wrote: eukaryote came about by two prokaryotes joining together and 5 quark combo can be thought of as a nucleon (3 quarks) and a meson(2quarks) combining and the 4 quqrk state as 2 mesons combining. By this logic perhaps there will be 6 quark beast if 2 nucleons combine. On 2016-01-15, at 4:17 PM, Malcolm Dean wrote: Could you specify the relata? Malcolm On Jan 15, 2016 5:31 AM, "Bob Logan" <email@example.com_ (mailto:lo...@physics.utoronto.ca) > wrote: Hi Malcolm - thanks for this article that supports my notion that my former field of particle physics is becoming like biology. The 4 and 5 quark combos represent an analogy of the transition in biology from prokaryotes to eukaryotes. :-) - Bob On 2016-01-14, at 7:39 PM, Malcolm Dean wrote: http://science.sciencemag.org/content/351/6270/217.summary Science 351(6270):217-219, 15 January 2016; DOI: 10.1126/science.351.6270 .217 The social life of quarks Adrian Cho Particle physicists at Europe's CERN laboratory in Switzerland say they have observed bizarre new cousins of the protons and neutrons that make up the atomic nucleus. Protons and neutrons consist of other particles called quarks, bound by the strong nuclear force. By smashing particles at high energies, physicists have blasted into fleeting existence hundreds of other quark-containing particles. Until recently, all contained either two or three quarks. But since 2014, researchers working with CERN's Large Hadron Collider have also spotted four- and five-quark particles. Such tetraquarks and pentaquarks could require physicists to rethink their understanding of quantum chromodynamics, or they could have less revolutionary implications. Researchers hope that computer simulations and more collider studies will reveal how the oddball newcomers are put together, but some wonder whether experiments will ever provide a definitive answer. ... = _______________________________________________ Fis mailing list Fis@listas.unizar.es http://listas.unizar.es/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fis
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