Cari Tutti,
tutto ciò che è stato creato o si è formato vive la propria vita. Le
distinzioni tra i mondi servono a farci cogliere le differenze di vita, ma
non a stabilire una contrapposizione tra ciò che vive e ciò che non vive.
Le leggi della vita o la vita delle leggi si inquadrano nel contesto
dell'esistenza che non può che essere fenomenologica. Gli uomini hanno
impiegato troppo tempo e tanta energia a classificare, gerarchizzare,
distinguere, contrapporre, ma hanno trascurato lo slancio vitale e
l'energia creativa che consente l' essere dinamico o la dinamica
dell'essere di ogni cosa..
Un abbraccio vitale o un vitale abbraccio trasmettitore di energia del
cuore e della mente a tutti e per tutti.

2016-04-29 23:58 GMT+02:00 Rafael Capurro <>:

> Dear Alex,
> this is a very interesting story that remembers me my 'relationships' with
> dogs and horses in Uruguay where I was born and spent my youth in the
> countryside.
> On weltarm:
> But, on the other hand, "world-poor" does not mean, as Heidegger remarks,
> "that life ("Leben") with regard to human existence ("Dasein") is of a
> poorer quality or a lower level. Rather is life a field with an own
> richness of openness that probably the human world does not know about."
> so... there is a lot of empirical research to be done with regard to the
> richness of openness of animals... that is different to ours, and of course
> each one of us has an own range of openness and this makes human-human
> interplay so amazing; how far can we now about the kind of openess a bird
> or... a dog or... has? it is indeed amazing to experience what they
> understand from what we say and viceversa, although there might be also
> some orthogonal relationship that does not allow the other to go further...
> but ths happens in everyday human relationship also, doesn't it? even among
> scientists :-) and of course among philosophers! so looking for differences
> does not mean making hierarchies it just makes life more astonishing. I was
> reading this morning a short article on Heidegger's sources in his lectures
> 1929/30 where he quotes some experiments of the physiologis Albrecht Bethe
> and their elucidation by the biologist Emanuel Radl following the apparisal
> of Jakob von Uexküll dealing with  te capaciy pf bees for finding their way
> bak (Christoph HOffmann: "Aus dem Leben der Bienen", A source of
> Heidegger's Examples Concerning Animal Life in the Fundamental Concepts of
> Metaphysics" in: Heidegger Studies 2014, vol.30, p. 205 ff. one of these
> sources being particualrly  Karl von Firsch: The danced Language and
> Orientation of bees,  1927, another original source bein Ernst Wolf: Über
> das Heimkehrvermögen der Bienen, Zt. f. vergleich. Physiologie, vol. 6,
> 1927, dealing ith the retinal image formed by the compound eye of a glow
> worm observed aadn even (sogar) photographed . and... the isue ehter the
> photograph depicts or not what the glow worms sees... (this is not suggeted
> neitehr by von Firsch nor Exner: he Physiology of the Compound Exyes of
> Insects and Crustaceands, 1891) so... this was 1927... you, biologists have
> done amazing research in the last hundred years... Heidegger was learning
> from you in 1927... and I am learning also from you too
> best
> rafael
> ps greetings from san sebastian and this amazing nature around me/us...
> Dear Rafael,
>> I read the opinion expressed in your patent,
>>, that we can enter the world of animals
>> but that they are 'world-poor' (*veltarm *- Heidegger), with interest, and
>> the following comment.
>> When I made my preconference seminar presentation to the 2016 Science of
>> Consciousness Conference here in Tucson on Tuesday morning, one of the
>> seminar participants (named Bill) happened to have a pet African Gray
>> Parrot named Harry, and was highly amused at my descriptions taken from
>> Sheldrake. He added some of his own, both at my invitation in response to
>> his interjection, and privately the following day after one of the plenary
>> sessions.
>> He told several stories about his bird and his relationship with it. Harry
>> definitely likes to be treated as a 'person' and not a 'possession' or
>> mere
>> 'pet'. He exercises choice, and if offered the chance to accompany Bill in
>> his car, feels quite free to respond, 'No, you go alone', or 'I'll stay
>> here'.
>> More poignantly, he has a great sense of humour, as related in several
>> anecdotes, one of which was what may happen if Bill has a long, long phone
>> call. Harry will sometimes imitate Bill's voice and say, 'Bye, now!', and
>> then make the clicking sound of the phone being hung up!!!
>> On one occasion when this happened, Bill was in the middle of a Skype
>> conference call with three colleagues all in different locations /
>> countries (continents?). Two of them with were already familiar with
>> Harry's habits and antics roared with laughter, and immediately told the
>> third who was totally confused, 'Don't worry! That's(just) his 'bird'.'
>> The
>> conference duely completed.
>> I have asked Bill to write me an account for publication in the
>> International Journal of Yoga, Physiology, Psychology and Parapsychology,
>> which I shall be happy to share with any Fis colleagues who are interested
>> at a later date. I would also request someone (possibly Maxine?) to write
>> me some instructions on what protocol(s) need(s) to be followed to conduct
>> a strict and rigorous phenomenological investigation of Harry's wonderful
>> abilities.
>> As you will have gathered, I personally think that this kind of
>> communication has a real relevance to the question in this webinar,
>> because
>> in my (admittedly inexperienced) it does afford us a new direction and
>> insight into the 'phenomenology of animal life'. We already know from
>> published studies that gorillas have a sense of humour and know perfectly
>> well when they are telling lies (whether jokes or otherwise), and that
>> this
>> gives distinct insight into what minds other than human minds are capable
>> of.
>> All best wishes,
>> Alex
>> P.S. Because of conference participation activities my internet connection
>> over the past few days has been very limited. Hence my waiting until now
>> to
>> make a decent reply to this valuable comment.
>> I have however been a little surprised by the small number of
>> communications and would appreciate a little feedback:
>> Is the material in the first half too technical and new?
>> Or were the accompanying papers too long/difficult?
>> Does it need further expansion and explanations?
>> Does the material in the second half seem too unlikely / implausible?
>> Thanks in advance for any feedback that anyone cares to send me,
>> either privately or thru Fis.
>> On 28 April 2016 at 06:47, Rafael Capurro <> wrote:
>> Dear Pedro and all,
>>> these are some thoughts on phenomenology of life:
>>> best
>>> Rafael
>>> Dear Alex and colleagues,
>>> Thanks for the opportunity to ad a few lines on signaling matters. I
>>> would
>>> not discard any organizational aspect of signaling pathways. I have put
>>> below a diagram that approaches the dynamics of some major ones.Your
>>> analogy with mobile phones would be right, provided that conversations
>>> were
>>> mixed, that a number of receivers were just random, and that a component
>>> of
>>> "experience information" would be entered too --I think it can apply to
>>> the
>>> dynamics of second messengers, where multitudes of microevents and
>>> pathways
>>> may be integrated via lots of feedbacks (See the box in the figure
>>> below).
>>> Symmetry is a big word concerning the organization of pathways in the
>>> construction of multicellular development... opposed paths, tipping
>>> points,
>>> collective (populational) symmetry breakings, massive feedbacks, etc.
>>> By the way, when we commented days ago on Tononi's phi, both from John
>>> Collier and myself, the idea was to consider it as applied to the closure
>>> of meaning episodes in language. How "getting" the meaning of some
>>> linguistic episode (eg, a joke) provokes a sudden change of transient
>>> connectivity between areas...
>>> Apart from meaning, it may also be interesting that there seems to be a
>>> strong asymmetry in between the incoming / outgoing information
>>> flows--the
>>> "social info loops" around. In most human organizations, the ratio is in
>>> between 3 and 4. It means that you and me are ordered by upper levels in
>>> around 80 % of our exchanges, while what we send upwards becomes a meager
>>> 20 %. It is from a statistics on business communication metrics. The
>>> generalization is far from direct, but maybe it would occur in the cells
>>> too--amazingly there is very little literature on cellular "signal
>>> emission".
>>> Anyhow, how the whole ascending and descending info flows give raise to
>>> all the varieties of organizational complexity is a fascinating problem,
>>> All the  best--Pedro
>>> *Figure 6: Prototypical signaling pathways of multicellularity.* From
>>> left to right, a stimulus in the intercellular space binds to a
>>> transmembrane receptor (sensor) on its extracellular domain. Upon
>>> binding,
>>> the receptor undergoes a transient modification of its cytoplasmic
>>> domain;
>>> this effect triggers a transient modification of a series of proteins in
>>> the cell, each one acting as an intermediate in the signal transduction
>>> pathway (signal processing), with characteristic hierarchies of protein
>>> kinases and second messengers. The last components are actuators or
>>> effectors that activate or inhibit proteins and channels that control
>>> several cellular functions, notably gene expression by means of
>>> transcriptional switches that may interact with several coactivator
>>> partners. The whole biochemical changes produced in the cell represent
>>> the
>>> response to the received signal —its *molecular meaning*.
>>>  El 26/04/2016 a las 10:10, Alex Hankey escribió:
>>> Dear Pedro,
>>> Thank you for the comments on my presentation, and particularly for
>>> reminding us all that life transmits information of many different kinds
>>> by
>>> very specific and selective processes in chemical signally molecules.
>>> I must confess that I had assumed that such kinds of signals could be
>>> considered special cases of digital information analogous to the codes
>>> transmitted by a digital signalling tower in a mobile telephone network,
>>> where the initial code has to name the device that the rest of that
>>> message
>>> section is meant to receive.
>>> In mobile phone systems, individual devices are sent information by
>>> identifiers. If we have a nervous system working with several
>>> neurotransmitters, or a cell signalling system working with a number of
>>> cytokines, each with a specific regulatory influence / purpose, are these
>>> individual items not performing in ways that are covered by the usual
>>> combination of Wiener and Shannon, and therefore in principle understood,
>>> and AS YOU SPECIFICALLY POINT OUT, with no particular "experience"
>>> component.
>>> I wonder whether the material I transmitted made the following point
>>> succinctly / precisely enough:
>>> David Chalmers specifically hypothesized that 'experience information'
>>> (my
>>> terminology) mst have a double aspect, and that the 'loop' arising from
>>> criticality specifically fulfils his hypothesis in a new and potent way.
>>> (The material contains so many points that this, to my mind, really
>>> significant one may have got buried.)
>>> Thank you also for appreciating the amplification of Tononi's
>>> contribution
>>> (Tononi, I personally regard as of real significance). The internal loop
>>> creates
>>> the internal coherence that is required to form the 'integrated
>>> information'.
>>> I have a suspicion that the following propositions are probably correct:
>>> a. any information structure that is truly 'non-reductive'
>>> (Chalmers requirement 3) must possess long range coherence.
>>> b. any information structure with long-range coherence will be a form of
>>> integrated information.
>>> c. Hence Chalmers requirement 3 in fact specifies integrative
>>> information.
>>> This sequence a, b, c simplifies what those writing in the 1990's were
>>> saying:
>>> they were in fact setting equivalent requirements on the form of
>>> 'experience information'
>>> (though Tononi undoubtedly thought he was saying something different, as
>>> did those who followed up on his work, and Chalmers did not realize that
>>> Tononi's proposal was equivaent to the point that he had proposed.
>>> Anyone's thoughts on this would be very much appreciated,
>>> All best wishes,
>>> Alex
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