Peirce's answer is a definite "yes", and is a form pf realism. The idea that patterns require an observer is the basis for nominalism, which was adopted by most empiricists like Locke and Hume. Plato, though, was also a nominalist, though the reasoning is not so straight-forward. The empiricist Berkeley, with his requirement of God's observation, is an objective idealism, but nominalistic nonetheless, in line with the other British Empiricists of his era.
John Collier Emeritus Professor and Senior Research Associate Philosophy, University of KwaZulu-Natal http://web.ncf.ca/collier > -----Original Message----- > From: Fis [mailto:fis-boun...@listas.unizar.es] On Behalf Of Dai Griffiths > Sent: Friday, 14 October 2016 4:16 PM > To: email@example.com > Subject: Re: [Fis] Scientific communication (from Mark) > > To trying to answer this question, I find myself asking "Do patterns exist > without an observer?". > > A number of familiar problems then re-emerge, which blur my ability to > distinguish between foreground and background. > > Dai > > On 13/10/16 11:32, Karl Javorszky wrote: > > Do patterns contain information? > > -- > ----------------------------------------- > > Professor David (Dai) Griffiths > Professor of Education > School of Education and Psychology > The University of Bolton > Deane Road > Bolton, BL3 5AB > > Office: T3 02 > http://www.bolton.ac.uk/IEC > > SKYPE: daigriffiths > UK Mobile +44 (0)749151559 > Spanish Mobile: + 34 687955912 > Work: + 44 (0)7826917705 > (Please don't leave voicemail) > email: > d.e.griffi...@bolton.ac.uk > dai.griffith...@gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > Fis mailing list > Fis@listas.unizar.es > http://listas.unizar.es/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fis _______________________________________________ Fis mailing list Fis@listas.unizar.es http://listas.unizar.es/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fis