# Re: [Fis] Welcome to Knowledge Market and the FIS Sci-coins

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From: Burgin, Mark <mbur...@math.ucla.edu>
Date: ????,3?? 29,2018 5:11 ????
To: tozziarturo <tozziart...@libero.it>, fis <fis@listas.unizar.es>
Subject: Re: [Fis] Welcome to Knowledge Market and the FIS Sci-coins

Dear Arturo,
Set theory is a particular case of named set theory. If set theory
solves some problem, then named set theory solves the same problem.
Use logic and some knowledge and you'll see truth.

Sincerely,
Mark

On 3/21/2018 11:48 PM,       tozziart...@libero.it wrote:

Dear Mark,

the named set theory does not solve the Russell paradox.

Therefore  it would be better to use, in such approaches, the         best
theory available, i.e., the Fraenkel-Zermelo sets.

In turn, the latter displays some limits: for example, the need         of a
set with infinite elements.

Therefore, set theory is not able to tackle information         problems.

You have to go back to other mathematical approaches.

Il 21 marzo 2018 alle 23.42 "Burgin, Mark"
<mbur...@math.ucla.edu> ha scritto:

Dear Krassimir and other FISers,

After reading the interesting contribution of Krassimir, I would
like to share with you some of my impressions and ideas.

I like very much the term INFOS suggested by Krassimir. It??s
possible to suggest that Krassimir assumed the following         definition.
An INFOS is a system functioning (behavior) of which is
regulated by information.
This definition implies that each INFOS has an information
processor.
Then it is possible to distinguish different categories and
types of INFOS. For instance:
INFOS only with acceptors/receptors
INFOS only with effectors
INFOS with both acceptors/receptors and effectors
Then it is possible to develop an interesting theory of INFOS.

At the same time, the difference between reality and
consciousness needs improvement because what many people mean         using the
word reality is actually only one of the variety of         realities, namely,
the physical or material reality, while         consciousness is a part of the
realities and their         interaction in the book (Burgin, Structural
Reality, 2012).         Please, don??t confuse Structural Reality with virtual
reality.

One more issue from the interesting contribution of Krassimir,
which allows further development, is the structure of a model.         Namely,
the relation (s, e, r) between a model s of an entity r         forms not
simply a triple but a fundamental triad, which is also         called a named
set.

Why this is important? The reason to conceive the structure (s,
e, r) as a fundamental triad or a named set is that there is an
advanced mathematical theory of named sets, the most         comprehensive
exposition of which is in the book (Burgin, Theory         of Named Sets,
2011), and it is possible to use this         mathematical theory for studying
and using models. For instance,         the structure from Figure 1 in
Krassimir??s letter is a morphism         of named sets. Named set theory
describes many properties of         such morphism and categories built of
named sets and their         morphism. The structures from Figure 2 in
Krassimir??s letter are         chains of named sets, which are also studied in
named set         theory.

To conclude it is necessary to understand that if we want to
apply mathematics in some area it is necessary to use adequate         areas of
mathematics. As Roger Bacon wrote, All science requires         mathematics,
but mathematics provides different devices that are         suited to different
input. In this respect, when you give good         quality grains to a
mathematical mill, it outputs good quality         flour, while if you put the
same grains into a mathematical         petrol engine, it outputs trash.

The theory of named sets might be very useful for information
studies because named sets and their chains allow adequate         reflection
of information and information processes.

Sincerely,
Mark

On 3/11/2018 3:34 PM,           Krassimir Markov wrote:

Dear                       Colleagues,

This letter                       contains more than one theme, so it is
structured                       as follow:

- next step in                       ??mental model?? explanation;

- about                       ??Knowledge market??, FIS letters?? sequences and
FIS                       Sci-coins.

1. The                         next step in ??mental model?? explanation:

Let remember                       shortly my letter from 05.03.2018.

To avoid                       misunderstandings with concepts Subject, agent,
animal, human, society, humanity, living
creatures, etc., in [1] we use the abstract                       concept
??INFOS?? to denote every of them as well as                       all of
artificial creatures which has features                       similar to the
former ones.

Infos has                       possibility to reflect the reality via
receptors                       and to operate with received reflections in its
memory. The opposite is possible - via effectors
Infos has possibility to realize in reality some
of its (self-) reflections from its consciousness.

The                       commutative diagram on Figure 1 represents
modeling relations. In the frame of diagram:

- in reality:                       real models: s is a model of r,

- in                       consciousness: mental models: si is a
mental model of ri;

- between                       reality and consciousness: perceiving data and
creating mental models:  triple (si, ei, ri)
is a mental model of triple (s, e, r).

It is easy to                       imagine the case when the Infos realizes
its                       reflections using its effectors, i.e. relation
between consciousness and reality: realizing
mental models and creating data. In this case the
receptors?? arrows should be replaces by opposite
effectors?? arrows. In this case triple (s, e, r)                       is a
realization of the mental model (si,                       ei, ri).

Figure 1

After creating                       the mental model it may be reflected by
other                       levels of consciousness. In literature several
such levels are described. For instance, in [2],
six levels are separated for humans (Figure 2).
The complexity of Infos determines the levels. For
instance, for societies the levels are much more,                       for
animals with no neo-cortex the levels a less.

Figure 2.                         [2]

This means                       that the mental models are on different
consciousness levels and different types (for
instance - touch, audition, vision).

In [2], Jeff                       Hawkins had remarked: ??The transformation??
from                       fast changing to slow changing and from spatially
specific to spatially invariant?? is well
documented for vision. And although there is a                       smaller
body of evidence to prove it, many                       neuroscientists
believe you'd find the same thing                       happening in all the
sensory areas of your cortex,                       not just in vision?? [2].

As it is shown                       on Figure 2 mental models are in very
large range                       from spatially specific to spatially
invariant;                       from fast changing to slow changing; from
??features?? and ??details?? to objects??.

To be                       continued...

2.Aabout                         ??Knowledge market??, FIS letters?? sequences
and                         FIS Sci-coins.

The                       block-chain idea is not new. All forums and
mailing lists have the possibility to organize
incoming messages in internally connected                       sequences. The
new is the Bit-coin, i.e. the price                       for including a
message in the sequence received                       after successful solving

What we have                       in FIS are letters?? sequences already
created for                       many years. What is needed to start using
them is                       to be strictly when we answer to any letter not
to                       change the ??Subject?? of the letter. The list
archive may help us to follow the sequences - only
what is needed to ask sorting by [                           Subject ].
We may sort by [                           Thread ] [
Subject ] [                           Author ] [                           Date
].

This means                       that the letter corresponds to the block, and
the                       sequence of letters corresponds to the chain.

In [3] we had                       introduced the new concept ??Knowledge
marked??. It                       is remembered in [4] where the approach for
measuring the scientific contributions was
proposed. It was proposed to use the ??paper?? as
basic measurement unit. Now I may say, the paper                       is our
??Sci-coin??. This Sci-coin is convertible to                       real
currencies - it is wide accepted the price of                       a paper to

Finally, the                       paper ??Data versus Information?? [5] is an
example                       of a FIS Sci-coin mined from the letters??
sequences.

As we had                       seen, it is not so easy to ??mine the
Sci-coin??!

Friendly                       greetings

Krassimir

References

[1] Kr.                       Markov, Kr. Ivanova, I. Mitov. Basic Structure of
the General Information Theory. IJ ITA, Vol.14,
No.: 1, 2007. pp. 5-19.

[2] Hawkins,                       Jeff (2004). On Intelligence (1st ed.).
Times                       Books. p. 272. ISBN 0805074562.

[3] K. Markov,                       K. Ivanova, I. Mitov, N. Ivanova, A.
Danilov, K.                       Boikatchev. Basic Structure of the Knowledge
Market. IJ ITA, 2002, V.9, No.4, pp. 123-134.

[4] Kr.                       Markov, Kr. Ivanova, V. Velychko, ??Usefulness of
Scientific Contributions??, International Journal
??Information Theories and Applications??, Vol.20,
Number 1, 2013, ISSN 1310-0513 (printed), ISSN
1313-0463 (online), pp. 4-38.

http://www.foibg.com/ijita/vol20/ijita20-01-p01.pdf

[5] Krassimir                       Markov, Christophe Menant, Stanley N
Salthe, Yixin                       Zhong, Karl Javorszky, Alex Hankey, Loet
Leydesdorff, Guy A Hoelzer, Jose Javier Blanco
Rivero, Robert K. Logan, Sungchul Ji, Mark
Johnson, David Kirkland, Gordana Dodig-Crnkovic.                       Data
versus Information. International Journal                       ??Information
Theories and Applications??, Vol. 24,                       Number 4, 2017,
ISSN 1310-0513 (printed), ISSN                       1313-0463 (online), pp.
303 -321.

http://www.foibg.com/ijita/vol24/ijita24-04-p01.pdf

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