form over content
is your preference, but this
list thinks otherwise

the photographic
quality of haiku seems
to be the focus

this quality is
not affected by messing
with syllable counts

it's not laziness
but a choice to focus on
a different aspect

twenty syllables
or twelve or fifteen is still
a measured poem

think of it as an
act of flexibility;
an exploration

what can haiku do
when stretched out of shape? can it
still convey beauty?

can it still convey
stillness; moments caught in time?
I think that it can.

flexibility
opens doors, brings new people
to the haiku world

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condescending, ill-informed, paternalistic and selling out since 1998
PO Box 1297, North Fitzroy, Victoria, Australia, 3068
Memo to myself: Do the dumb things I gotta do. Touch the puppet head.


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>From: Michael Greenwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: adam ford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, five7five <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: [X] "it just seems lazy"
>Date: Fri, Jul 6, 2001, 8:00 AM
>

>      My opinion's clear
> when faced with this decision.
>     Form over content.
>
>        Let's forget onji
>   and concentrate on haiku
>        as non- Japanese.
>
>      This list's in English
>   and I assume it's readers
>   comprehend that tongue.
>
>      If a list starts up
>    for traditional haiku
>     I, for one, am lost.
>
>      The non- Japanese
>   understand the haiku as
>      a measured poem.
>
>       Each in languages
>    as diverse as all poems,
>       regardless of form.
>
>         To this I refer,
>   when I speak of laziness.
>       No offense taken!
>
>
>
>
> adam ford wrote:
>
>> strictness when it comes
>> to writing haiku can be
>> counterproductive
>>
>> what of season words,
>> or of onji (which are not
>> syllables) my friend?
>>
>> if you abandon
>> one rule then why not loosen
>> the hold of others?
>>
>> the purist forgets:
>> "true" haiku are written in
>> the japanese tongue
>>
>> english translation
>> is in itself bending the
>> rules of the haiku
>>
>> to add a word to
>> a twelve-syllable haiku
>> can wreck the balance
>>
>> in the end, which is
>> more important: the form or
>> the poem's content?
>>
>> this is not meant to
>> be an act of aggression -
>> just an opinion
>>
>> adam ford
>> __________________________________________________________________
>> the man responsible for Jutchy Ya Ya, Duck Fat and various stupid comics.
>> condescending, ill-informed, paternalistic and selling out since 1998
>> PO Box 1297, North Fitzroy, Victoria, Australia, 3068
>> Memo to myself: Do the dumb things I gotta do. Touch the puppet head.
>>
>> > Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2001 17:58:26 -0400
>> > From: Michael Greenwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], five7five <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > Subject: Re: [X] count'em
>> >
>> >           I won't be upset
>> >      if syllables don't add up.
>> >         It just seems lazy.
>>
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