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Yes, if the previous value has the state empty and the bit is not set, then the 
exponent is NULL.

/David

> Thank you very much for your prompt and clear reply.
> 
> Just a little question: what if the exponent bit isn't set and the
> previous value is empty? Is this a particular case of NULL exponent?
> 
> Regards, -- Ale
> 
> 
> 
> > Ale -
> >
> > 1. No. Whether you should process the mantissa or not is only
> >    dependent on a single thing: if the exponent is NULL or not.
> >    Whether you use a operator on the exponent doesn't change this
> >    property.
> >
> > In your example you use the copy operator. If the bit is not set this
> > means "copy the previous value". If the previous value is not NULL,
> > then the value of the exponent is not NULL and the mantissa is
> > present.
> >
> > 2. The mantissa and exponent parts are treated as two individual
> >    fields in the dictionary so there are one or two separate signed
> >    integer fields in the dictionary to manage. There is no
> >    corresponding scaled number field in the dictionary in this case.
> >    However, when you communicate the value of the field from the
> >    decoder to the application you would typically combine them into a
> >    scaled number or similar.
> >
> > /David
> >
> > > Actually may be I was not so clear.
> > >
> > > In the specific case:
> > >
> > >  < decimal name="MDEntryPx" id="270" presence="optional" > <
> > >  exponent
> > >  > < copy value="-2" / > < / exponent > < mantissa > < delta / > < /
> > >  mantissa > < /decimal >
> > >
> > > since the decimal is optional, then the exponent is optional.
> > > Moreover, since the exponent has the individual copy operator,
> > > then the exponent will have a bit in the pmap (no matter if it is
> > > set or not).
> > >
> > > The exponent will be considered absent in two distinct cases:
> > >
> > > a) The bit is not set.
> > > b) The bit is set but, since the exponent is optional, it is present
> > >    in the stream in its NULL representation.
> > >
> > > In both these cases the mantissa will be not present in the stream
> > > as well and has to be considered absent.
> > >
> > > The only case in which the mantissa is present in the stream is when
> > > the exponent bit in pmap is set and the exponent value is not NULL.
> > >
> > > 1. Is all that right?
> > >
> > > 2. How should we set the new previous value of the decimal (the
> > > corresponding Scaled Number) if the exponent has to be considered
> > > absent?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Note that even if the exponent bit in pmap was not set, the value of
> > > the exponent field could result assigned (for example it should be
> > > assigned to the copy initial value, or to the previous value stored
> > > in the dictionary).
> > >
> > > 3. Let suppose the mantissa is not in the stream (because of the
> > > exponent absence), what does it imply in term of the mantissa field
> > > value, and what in term of the mantissa new previous value?
> > >
> > >
> > > Many thanks in advance.
> > >
> > > Regards, -- Ale
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > Ale -
> > > >
> > > > A bit in the pmap indicates how a field operator should be
> > > > executed. The exact meaning of the bit is dependent on the
> > > > operator type and its attributes.
> > > >
> > > > The bit doesn't automatically indicate whether an optional field
> > > > is NULL or not. Only after exercising the operator according to
> > > > the bit you'll know if the value is NULL or not.
> > > >
> > > > When using a decimal field with individual operators, and the
> > > > value of an exponent field is NULL, the instruction for the
> > > > mantissa should be skipped.
> > > >
> > > > You may want to have a look a this post (and other posts in the
> > > > same thread):
> > > >
> > > > http://www.fixprotocol.org/discuss/read/24ed599c
> > > >
> > > > /David
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Hello, I would need a clarification.
> > > > >
> > > > > The handbook [section 10.5.1 -- Presence Map and NULL
> > > > > Utilization] says:
> > > > >
> > > > > [...]If the decimal has optional presence, the exponent field is
> > > > > treated as an optional integer field and the mantissa field is
> > > > > treated as a mandatory integer field. The presence of the
> > > > > mantissa field and any related bits in the presence map are
> > > > > dependent on the presence of the exponent. The mantissa field
> > > > > appears in the stream iff the exponent value is considered
> > > > > present. If the mantissa has an operator that requires a bit in
> > > > > the presence map, this bit is present iff the exponent value is
> > > > > considered present.[...]
> > > > >
> > > > > Let suppose I have the following decimal field in my template
> > > > > definition:
> > > > >
> > > > > < decimal name="MDEntryPx" id="270" presence="optional" > <
> > > > > exponent
> > > > > > < copy value="-2" / > < / exponent > < mantissa > < delta / >
> > > > > > < /
> > > > > mantissa
> > > > > > < /decimal >
> > > > >
> > > > > For the best of my comprehension in this case the exponent is
> > > > > optional, and has its own bit in pmap (due to the copy
> > > > > operator). If that bit is not set (the exponent is not present
> > > > > in the stream for sure) then the mantissa will be not present in
> > > > > the stream as well.
> > > > >
> > > > > 1. Does the same worth if the bit in pmap is set but the
> > > > >    exponent value is NULL?
> > > > > 2. What about the new previous value of the Scaled Number if the
> > > > >    exponent has to be considered absent?
> > > > >
> > > > > Moreover, the fact that the exponent bit in pmap is not set
> > > > > should not imply that the value of the exponent field will be
> > > > > not assigned (e.g. it should be assigned to the copy initial
> > > > > value, or to the previous value stored in the dictionary).
> > > > >
> > > > > 3.Let suppose the mantissa is not in the stream (because of the
> > > > > exponent absence), what does it imply in term of the mantissa
> > > > > field value, and in term of the mantissa new previous value?
> > > > >
> > > > > Many thanks in advance. Kind regards, -- Ale


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