This message is from: "Frederick J. (Fred) Pack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hello to all,

I was interested in the comments regarding heated (warmer) water in the
winter.

We use Nelson automatic waterers that are electrically heated.  The 200 watt
heater kicks in to keep the water around
50o F. or 10o C.  It is extremely important that they all be well grounded.

Electrical problems DO occur when the electric fence gets shorted out such
as the many trees that have blown over on my fences in the last two weeks.
We have suffered through 3 major windstorms here.

We narrowly dodged the bullet on the last one.  A 70 foot fir uprooted and
fell on one of my small barns with two mini-horses inside.  Luckily, the
Priefert steel panels that form the corrals took most of the blow and the
tree did not slice the barn in half.  It only sliced 4 feet into the
roof.....and stopped there....held by the steel panels.    Had to replace
the barnlet, BUT didn't have to bury any horses.  Two panels, each weighing
100lbs, had to be replaced on the barn perimeter and two pasture panels.  I
can't praise these panels enough for their strength.  They are portable and
CHAIN together.  Best investment I ever made.

Back to the electric fences:  When the fence gets shorted out (to ground)
the electrical charge IS felt at the waterers.  I make a practice of
checking the electric fence operation every feeding....OR THE HORSES WILL
NOT DRINK.  THEY GET SHOCKED by the charge traveling through the ground.

If you have ANY kind of metal water containers (that touch the ground) AND
electric fences....check your fences regularly for shorts.

Fred and Lois Pack
Pack's Peak Stables
Wilkeson, WA USA

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of jean gayle
Sent:   Tuesday, December 08, 1998 10:44 PM
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Subject:        Re: straw causing impaction

This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (jean gayle)

>Very interesting Brian re the warm water drinking vs cold.  I use heaters
in my outdoor troughs that keep the water warm.  Occasionally electricity.
low amount, may be present and my big horse is very sensitive and will woof
and huff and not drink where both my Holsteiner and my little Howdy Fjörd
would just drink away.  Thanks for re-enforcing in my mind that straw and
Fjö can be a problem.  Jean Gayle
Jean Gayle  --- A Subscriber at Techline

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