This message is from: Mary Thurman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- Karen Keith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This message is from: "Karen Keith" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >I also would like to ask you what color you think > that the white duns are. the yellow duns are > >genetically chestnuts with both a dun dilution, and > a creme or CCC gene.
Not quite, I'm afraid. A yellow dun is a red dun with another dilution gene. Red duns seem to need a white dun parent. Also, the same white dun can produce a yellow dun - without going through the whitedun to red dun to yellow dun sequence. In other words, the same white dun might produce a red dun offspring, OR a yellow dun offspring - depending on what "comes through" in the pairing with another Fjord. According to Tor Nestas, a white dun is a dilution of brown dun, with what he calls some "sliding" between the colors. There is no 'chestnut' involved here anywhere. You get a white dun by 'diluting' the brown dun(which comes from bay) - then you get the red or yellow dun by further diluting the white dun, which gives a horse color with such a dilute 'dun factor' that, especially in the yellow dun, there are virtually NO dun markings.(They are there, it's just nearly impossible to see them because the shading is so subtle). Yellow duns look palomino - and are allowed only a few(or maybe now it's 'no') dark hairs in the tail. I seem to remember counting dark hairs at one time - maybe it was less than 6? Red duns look like 'reddish yellow duns' and, again, have no(or only a very few) dark hairs in the mane or tail. I understand that grey duns can also 'through' red dun offspring. Peg, do you know how this one works? Mary Who owns a white dun(ulsdun) mare with sons and daughters of every Fjord color except gray. That had to wait for the 'next' generation. ===== Mary Thurman Raintree Farms [EMAIL PROTECTED]
