No, you are wrong :)

If there is prior art and they did not patent it then the patent does
not get bestowed on the owner of the prior art, it just goes away.

Also, I am hard pressed to understand why the AOL application is not
an RIA. Based on my reading of the patents definition of an RIA I
think AOL would probably be the biggest pre-existing RIA.

Regards
Hank

On 3/2/06, elibol <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Chris, the evidence being collected at OSFlash should only serve to bestow
> the ownership of the patent to someone else. I apologize, but I would need
> help understanding what else this kind of documentation could prove. The
> problem would persist, am I wrong?
>
> M.
>
> On 3/2/06, Chris Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Aral Balkan has created a page on the OSFlash.org wiki for documenting
> > these prior projects.  Moonfruit.com is already listed, but if any of
> > you have other early RIAs to add, please do so.
> >
> > Here is the link: http://osflash.org/balthaser_patent_prior_art_discovery
> >
> > On 3/2/06, Alias <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > The patent holder did actually create Balthaser.com, which was, at the
> > > time, a pretty early RIA (circa 2000). It was a bit crap though. Kind
> > > of a powerpoint ripoff, only less good. This was all done in Flash 4.
> > >
> > > I would say it was the *second* ever RIA, because Moonfruit.com(where
> > > I worked) was around before it (and still is)
> > >
> > > Alias
> > >
> > > On 3/2/06, Troy Rollins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Mar 2, 2006, at 9:58 AM, elibol wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Our team has been aware of this situation. It's big trouble if it's
> > > > > to be
> > > > > sold to the highest bidder; ignorantly speaking, Microsoft should
> > > > > appear to
> > > > > outstand the competition in financial strength.
> > > >
> > > > Microsoft would probably find it cheaper to support the challenge of
> > > > the patent. Maybe they'd be willing to donate the lawyer fees, since
> > > > that seems to be about the only thing stopping this patent from
> > > > getting blown out of the water. There doesn't seem to be any question
> > > > that there is prior art, and the patent is bogus. I'm pretty
> > > > confident Adobe could knock it down as well.
> > > >
> > > > I'd like to see a single RIA the patent holder ever made.
> > > >
> > > > Software patents really suck. Strictly conceptual ones even more so.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Troy
> > > > RPSystems, Ltd.
> > > > http://www.rpsystems.net
> > > >
> > > >
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