FYI, this tool won't be released to our clients until probably 3 to 5 months after the new plug-in has been released. Unfortunately, this application is massive and it'll take probably close to a year to finish a full conversion.
To Michael and Jason, I appreciate both of your opinions and have taken a lot of what was said to heart. Thanks, Kevin -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Bedar Sent: March 15, 2006 9:55 AM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Flex2 Project Conversion The question that I would be asking myself if I was thinking of using Flex2 for a real world project right now, is, if at some point in the development cycle it would be ok to have to rewrite/rework an unknown percent of the code, due to a new beta or final release.. if that does not sound scary then happy day. Of course, I can't imagine being able to convince a client to require a beta flash player version... On Mar 15, 2006, at 10:33 AM, Merrill, Jason wrote: > All I said was I wouldn't risk building a project for a client that > relies on a beta version of a product. Mr. Mendels at Macromedia > replied with basically the same response. I think that's pretty > common > reasoning, but apparently not everyone would agree and that's OK. I'm > entitled to my opinion, just as you are yours. The poster asked for > input on risk of using Flex 2 right now, and I just said what I would > do/recommend. That's all. I think you somehow want to create a > debate > topic out of this, when there is really only personal opinions and > personal business perspectives - no clear cut answer. I've given my > personal opinion, and you have yours, so give it a rest. > > Jason Merrill | E-Learning Solutions | icfconsulting.com > > > > > > >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders- >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Johannes Nel >>> Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 10:21 AM >>> To: Flashcoders mailing list >>> Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Flex2 Project Conversion >>> >>> first off lets clear up the use of words here: >>> argument: >>> 1. A discussion in which disagreement is expressed; a debate. >>> 2. A course of reasoning aimed at demonstrating truth or falsehood >>> example: presented >>> a careful argument for extraterrestrial life. >>> 3. A summary or short statement of the plot or subject of a literary > work. >>> >>> i meant argument in the like number 2 >>> >>> from dictionary .com. and me not being a native english speaker > having to >>> point this out. tut tut tut. >>> >>> my argument (meaning 2) is that zorn is relatively stable. api's >>> might > have >>> changed again between beta 1 and beta 2 and stuff will change to >>> beta > 3. >>> this should not influence a project to much. >>> futhermore, large companies are spending large amounts doing r&d on > this, so >>> if they are trying to build stuff with it why shouldn't you try to > port an >>> existing app that works. >>> >>> building a brand spanking new app that you have a tight deadline on > for >>> midsummer is crazy talk, but taking something which works (hence you > have >>> something you can fall back ojn if you go over schedule) and >>> building > that >>> using flex2 can only benefit a company and an individual from a > strategic >>> position. >>> >>> enough of this argument (1,2 and or 3) now. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 3/15/06, Merrill, Jason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>> >>>>>> i don't quite agree with your argument. >>>> >>>> I am not making any "argument" - not sure where you're getting that > - I >>>> just said I wouldn't risk it myself, personally. Macromedia just > posted >>>> in this thread that "It is always risky to build on a beta... you > need >>>> to judge your tolerence for risk." It's just a business decision, > and >>>> not one I am willing to risk with my own clients. >>>> >>>> Jason Merrill | E-Learning Solutions | icfconsulting.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:flashcoders- >>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Johannes Nel >>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 6:24 PM >>>>>> To: Flashcoders mailing list >>>>>> Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Flex2 Project Conversion >>>>>> >>>>>> i am contracting to large company and we are doing stuff using > flex2, >>>> so... >>>>>> i don't quite agree with your argument. also note what he says, > they >>>> want to >>>>>> move an existing app to flex2 and his concern is that it will > change >>>>>> radically from beta 1 to final product. the very fact that beta 2 > is >>>> coming >>>>>> out means that things are relatively stable and well along the > path. i >>>> think >>>>>> starting now will be a good idea. but thats just my opinion. >>>>>> >>>>>> On 3/14/06, Merrill, Jason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I wouldn't bet any project on a beta personally - unless I had >>>> insiders >>>>>>> at Adobe, but even then... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Jason Merrill | E-Learning Solutions | icfconsulting.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> [mailto:flashcoders- >>>>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Aebig >>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 1:35 PM >>>>>>>>> To: 'Flashcoders mailing list' >>>>>>>>> Subject: [Flashcoders] Flex2 Project Conversion >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hey all, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The company I work for is interested in moving one of our > large >>>>>>> applications >>>>>>>>> over to Flex when the new version comes out. Is it worthwhile > or >>>> even >>>>>>>>> feasible to begin porting it over with the Beta release or are > we >>>>>>> wasting >>>>>>>>> our time considering that quite a bit of it could change >>>> beforehand. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I'd hate to put in a lot of time into this only to find out > that >>>> my >>>>>>> source >>>>>>>>> files are rendered obsolete when the new version is finally >>>> released. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks for your input, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> !k >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>> To change your subscription options or search the archive: >>>>>>>>> http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software >>>>>>>>> Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training >>>>>>>>> http://www.figleaf.com >>>>>>>>> http://training.figleaf.com >>>>>>> NOTICE: >>>>>>> This message is for the designated recipient only and may > contain >>>>>>> privileged or confidential information. 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