Ruby can handle XML... That's all that's required.

If Ruby is all you can handle, then use it.  It is more than enough for
your needs, but as your programming skills develop (and they definitely
will), you'll want a more portable system.

Lee



-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chad
Royer
Sent: 23 March 2006 22:13
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Using Flash with Ruby on Rails

Here's where I'm coming from.  Like I said, I'm more of a designer  
than a programmer.  I really grasp the logic behind OO structures so  
I'm able to understand what I need to accomplish with my code to get  
things working nicely, but I don't have a 'words' brain, so if I'm  
not writing in a particular language every day, I quickly forget what  
I know as far as actual syntax and code structure.  I can write with  
php, but it takes a long time to step thru simple things and make  
them work, and if I go a few days without writing php then I have to  
figure it all out again.  I can do quite a bit in Actionscript, since  
that's really where I started, but I only have room in my brain for  
so much of that stuff, and even some of the advanced AS stuff flies  
right thru my head without making any serious contact.

That was what I found attractive about ruby on rails... that I can  
focus on logical application structure and make things work pretty  
well without having to deal with syntax details that I just can't  
seem to keep in my noggin.  For most of the things I do, simple  
database connectivity is really enough, but I'm also trying to build  
some applications that are quite a bit more complex.  Ultimately for  
the more complex projects, I'd prefer to be able to knock out a  
prototype that 'works' relatively quickly and without having to learn  
all of PHP or whatever, then hire a 'real' programmer to make it all  
proper.

RoR also seems like it would make it very easy to deal with building  
both xhtml/css versions and flash versions of the same site.  Again,  
I know that can be done with php and everything else, but would  
involve much more actual coding to do so.  I just started looking  
into RoR a couple of days ago, so I haven't decided that it's the  
king setup or anything like that, but it seems to work the way I  
think.  The only thing I hadn't been able to find much info about is  
how to get results from ruby to flash.  If it's just a matter of  
pumping xml out of RoR and parsing it in flash, then cool... If  
there's something that could work better, given my perspective, I'd  
be happy to hear about that too.  To me, haxe looks like AS with just  
enough subtle differences to confuse the hell outa me, tho I do  
understand what they're doing.

I hope that clarifies what I'm getting at... if RoR is suitable as a  
backend for flash, essentially, and what needs to be done to pass  
variables back and forth.  I'm not interested in 'chasing the  
language of the day' as you put it, either.  I'd like to find one  
setup that works for me and stick with it.

thanks once again. and thanks also to chris allen for your insight on  
haxe, and to mark daggett for the answer I was really looking for...  
I would love to see some examples of how you set up that integration  
with JSON and the javascript integration kit (tho if I could do it  
without javascript I think I'd be happier).

-chad


>
> Message: 8
> Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 15:18:59 -0400
> From: Miles Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Using Flash with Ruby on Rails
> To: [email protected]
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>
> I don't get it. Whether one uses Ruby, PHP or mothers_mouthwash,  
> all one is
> doing is using xmlSendAndLoad() (or similar function) to call a  
> script and
> retrieve results. What's the big deal?
>
> If the question is what language / framework should I use to  
> establish an
> app to manage the data, and incidentally fetch it for Flash, then a
> framework makes sense - RoR, Cake, ... whatever you are comfortable  
> and
> productive with?  (I'm a PHP guy myself - stopped chasing "language  
> of the
> month" years ago.)
>
> Regards - Miles
>

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