oh man... mProject does rock. Well, at least it did like about a year and a half ago, thats the last time I used it. cant vouch for any of the other ones.
mike mountain - just say it and stick by it. don't apologize and act like you didnt mean to say it. you're allowed your opinon just as much as anyone else. On 10/3/06, John Grden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Some updates on your knowledge of SWHX 1. SWHX is completely new, open source and cross-platform 2. The old version was the bench mark to which other's hoped to attain and worked great. 3. The version you speak of, as I have heard, was a version that was modified for a company you worked for - a company who's owner was a liar/fraud and never paid for the services he hired Edwin to do. I believe also, that that version was left "buggy" BECAUSE of the non-payments and therefore, was never completed/fixed/updated/made right. 4. Nicolas only did a port from C++ to C on the windows platform. Edwin/team have taken it from there to the mac platform. Haxe/Neko make everything else possible, crossplatform and very consistent with a standard of coding that remains from platform to platform. "IMO, the reason Screenweaver was made open source is because it was a mess and the only way to clean it up was to invite other coders to get involved and help fix all its problems. I'm all for open source, but the original Screenweaver code was so bad, I can't bring myself to rely on it." 5. That's not true - and is a slap in the face to the guys who worked on it. Of whom, I am good friends with. Screenweaver was for-profit with 3 partners. The company folded and later, Edwin encouraged going open source with it because it was collecting dust and there were alot of requests for it to return. Mainly based on the buggy issues with OTHER wrappers. "I invite anyone to share a negative experience they had with mProjector (I've never seen or heard a single one), but you can search the archives and there are plenty of developers in the community who have had plenty of negative experiences with Screenweaver. Other wrappers like SWFStudio and Zinc, while not as solid as mProjector, were far more stable than Screenweaver. I would trust any wrapper except Screenweaver to handle functionality that mProjector doesn't have." 6. Ok. The UI sucks and is completely off track with other wrapper applications. In an attempt to be "innovative", they've left other's behind who don't have time to "think" like their innovators. They assume WAY too much for you and like I said, the interface is so counter intuitive it makes it impossible for advanced users to use it in powerful ways. Now, it's been a while since I've tryied mProjector, and I've heard plenty of good things, but my last experience basically left me with asking Edwin "where the hell is screenweaver?!?". So, I apologize if it's come along way with the UI/tools. Good for them. creating a SWHX app is cake and updating the SWHX engine/files to the latest releases is a commandline away - it's so easy, a caveman could do it. In fact, I've been running Xray with it for the past 3 weeks and it's run wonderfully and has been a beauty to maintain/update. Also, Edwin/Nicolas are very responsive - any time a feature is asked for or a bug is reported, they are either fixing already, or adding that feature overnight in many cases. anyway, I hope that helps clear up the confusion. On 10/3/06, Steven Sacks | BLITZ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Promoting it is one thing, but his post was not a promotional post, but > more that of a call to action from an impartial party, which he is not. > > I don't think Screenweaver being open and free makes it better > considering Screenweaver before it was open and free was, simply put, > bad. Here are some facts about Screenweaver. > > It was extremely buggy, > had features that simply did not work, > was unstable and would crash without warning and with no notification, > had issues with ATI cards when Microsoft Outlook was open, > had issues where the CPU usage would spike to 99% and never release > making Windows (and the SW app) unresponsive requiring a task manager > force quit, > had a terrible API for doing the most simple things (something like > 15-20 lines of code to make a system tray icon compared to ONE line of > code in mProjector, > had many functions required 5+ arguments, which reflects poor planning) > > And the list goes on and on. > > I wouldn't recommend trusting anything that was based on such bad code > unless it was completely rewritten from scratch, which I'm not sure it > was. > > Contrary to that, mProjector has always been rock solid and well thought > out and has had asynchronous support since the beginning while all other > wrapper developers could not figure how to do it for years. Let me > stress that - for years nobody knew how the author of mProjector > provided asynchronous support despite their best efforts, and there was > plenty of effort from all the wrapper developers. > > Now that the facts are out of the way, it's time for my opinions. > > I invite anyone to share a negative experience they had with mProjector > (I've never seen or heard a single one), but you can search the archives > and there are plenty of developers in the community who have had plenty > of negative experiences with Screenweaver. Other wrappers like > SWFStudio and Zinc, while not as solid as mProjector, were far more > stable than Screenweaver. I would trust any wrapper except Screenweaver > to handle functionality that mProjector doesn't have. > > IMO, the reason Screenweaver was made open source is because it was a > mess and the only way to clean it up was to invite other coders to get > involved and help fix all its problems. I'm all for open source, but > the original Screenweaver code was so bad, I can't bring myself to rely > on it. > > All this being said, major companies trust mProjector as their wrapper > of choice for mass deployment. Companies like The Weather Channel, > DirecTV, Fox Interactive, Earthlink, and Turner Broadcasting. 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