Well in my understanding from starting with Flash 5.
HTML and javascript could not do what Flash was doing and that made it
all the rage.
Now that HTML (so to speak) has caught up, I think Flash would do a
great service and join in if you will.
Just because they turn you down, doesn't mean you don't try again. I
think that Adobe could
make Actionscript better than Javascript and jQuery AND you would
still be able to use the Flash
program to create things like you did for the plugin phase of Flash.
Just this time it exports HTML instead of SWF.
I think the power of Actionscript would make a superb DOM manipulator,
especially for its OOP capabilities.
But alas, you are probably right. I just wanted, more so, to get it
off my chest...
If I had the money to buy Flash from Adobe, that is what I would do
with it. It makes sense to me.
Its probably what Flash should have done in the first place instead of
creating a plugin env.
Best,
Karl
On Sep 18, 2012, at 5:44 AM, Paul Andrews wrote:
The web standards comittee already squashed Adobe's attempt to get
ecmascript 2 adopted as a browser standard - making actionscript and
javascript compatible.
Adobe is never going to try and make Flash compete with javascript
as a DOM manipulator.
Adobe is going to concentrate on markets where flash has an advantage.
Paul
On 18/09/2012 11:35, Karl DeSaulniers wrote:
I personally think that if Flash wants to compete with the likes of
HTML 5 and jQuery, it needs to step out of the plugin area.
Make it an EMCA viable script language. Like Actionscript becoming
Javascripts competitor. Make it so Actionscript can control and
manipulate DOM.
Just sayin..
Karl
PS: I don't think the original topic was vectors anyway, so your
good. :)
On Sep 18, 2012, at 5:26 AM, Cédric Muller wrote:
Karl DeSaulniers wrote :
Flash is not dead. It's hibernating.
..... With SOME of the fault in the way flash handles things.
Adobe was a little confusing on that one. It somehow proved it
lacked of vision, and failed to capitalize the 'money grabbing'
process that was needed for Mankind (sarcasm). And since then, it
looks like Flash is living the Director's fate (and maybe the
Director's Cut too ...). Flash is still very good, as a runtime.
As are a lot of runtimes. What we observe is that browsers are
runtimes, and that we can do many things with them that don't
justify Flash use anymore (as it was always the case, take the
usability gurus .. err darketers ). So all in all, Flash Player is
still a strong runtime that lets developpers leverage some amazing
things with it. Moreover, this AppStore storm got rid of a lot of
bad Flash use (indirectly, a lot of bad applications with bad
usability principles can be found on the iOS ecosystem from now
on). Flash is now considered as a technology, and no more as a new
paradigm (which is what the iOS AppStore is currently going
through). 15 minutes of fame.
Cedric.
Sorry for the OT, as I don't really anything to add regarding
vectors vs bitmaps ... though I 'plus' the view that it truly
depends on the utilization: sometimes bitmaps are better,
sometimes vectors are better: know your tech and make experiments
in order to test in real situations. (Though I was amazingly
amazed by the way Flash Player simply merges with Retina displays,
for example. Vectors power!)
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