Hi PR,

I'm not sure what your time line is with this project, but I thought
you would be interested to know that Red5 ( http://osflash.org/red5 )
will be able to do both RTMP and AMF messages with the same server and
the same connection.  We already have the basics of this working.

If you are interested in seeing what we are up to, check out John
Grden's presentation tomorrow at the online Open Source Flash
Conference: http://osflash.org/ofla_online  He will demonstrate some
of the server-side communication features during the presentation and
let people know the general direction of the project.

-Chris

On 10/20/05, JesterXL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Here's an article that should explain it all:
> http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/flashcom/articles/improving_ria.html
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "PR Durand" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Flashcoders mailing list" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 9:21 AM
> Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] remoting with java
>
>
> I've read that Flashcomm was able to communicate with serverside
> applications.
> something's still wrong in my mind...
> I got sending data between my .swf and may .class using openamf but it's
> webservices, only pull.
> I got sending data from the server to my .swf (push) using flashcom
> but I still don't see the missing piece to communicate between flashcomm
> and the java application = to push data from the java to the swf via
> flashcomm...
> please light my way, I'm lost!
>
> thanks a lot
> PR
>
>
> > JesterXL a écrit :
> >
> >> A Remote Shared Object is only available with Flash Communication
> >> Server (aka Flashcom), and it allows clients to receive pushed data
> >> from the server, and for them to make changes to the objects as well,
> >> and have that data synced among both the server and the client.
> >>
> >> Flash Remoting allows Flex/Flash clients to send data to middle-tiers
> >> and allow the integration to be smoother.  Rather than parsing XML or
> >> URL encoded variables like you do with LoadVariables/ (GET/POST),
> >> you're data can have meaning on the client and server; sharing via
> >> ValueObjects that match in their respective language (Flash sends a
> >> Person object in ActionScript which gets translated to a Java POJO
> >> for example).
> >>
> >> Tom Muck has some good Remoting resources:
> >> http://www.flash-remoting.com/examples/
> >>
> >> XMLSocket stuff is old, and should be all over the web; here's a start.
> >> http://www.flashmove.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10573
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "PR Durand"
> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> To: "Flashcoders mailing list" <[email protected]>
> >> Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 11:58 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] remoting with java
> >>
> >>
> >> Ho thanks a lot Jester! that seems to be what I'm looking for!
> >> But I don't think that I understant all the details. I thought that
> >> using a remote shared object was the only way to communicate with
> >> clients.
> >> have you got tutorials urls about XML-socket server and/or Remoting
> >> please?
> >> Thanx once more
> >> PR
> >>
> >> JesterXL a écrit :
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> Remoting is request/response only.  If you want push, you can use
> >>> Flashcom,
> >>> as you have been, or XMLSocket.  A great combo is using Flashcom to
> >>> do 1
> >>> Remoting call, and then utilizing Remote Shared Objects to propagate
> >>> the
> >>> data.  This prevents thousands of clients from making a remoting
> >>> call, and
> >>> syncs all that new data amongst said clients in real-time.
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "PR Durand"
> >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>> To: "Flashcoders mailing list" <[email protected]>
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 11:17 AM
> >>> Subject: [Flashcoders] remoting with java
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Hi list!
> >>>
> >>> I need in my application to access java webservices, but I need also
> >>> the
> >>> server to send data to the clients without client request...
> >>> So is it possible to communicate in both directions client-server with
> >>> remoting (currently openamf but will be turned on MM Flash Remoting) as
> >>> we do with flashcomm server and the sharedObjects or do I need to
> >>> install Remoting AND flashcom ?
> >>>
> >>> thanx a lot
> >>>
> >>> Pierre-Rémi
> >>>
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