First of all, sorry to all for the noise and bandwidth waste here, but I
just couldn't resist...
>From an old M$ platform devs (15+ yrs - all manner of languages)
perspective, ANYTHING that is 'cross-platform' from the Redmond crew is
gonna turn out to be anything but. Their biggest talking point used to be
leveraging 'the rich client interface' of the Windoze OS with their
proprietary API tools and frameworks. Well, the Boyz at MM have all but put
that to rest. Now Redmond is freakin out because they don't have a direct
competitor, so a FUD-Mission in certainly in order (read Sparkles 'feature
set'). On top of that, anyone remember the 'Cool' project M$ embarked on ~
the year 2000? Same business they're attempting w/ Sparkle - good luck. My
grandfather once told me "You can always paint an old barn to look new..."
Hrmmm... Same old barn, new 'paint job'...
The 'serious apps' (read Enterprise) use tried and true methods because of
the data access support, IMHO. Just take a look back and read over Visual
Basics long history as an example. That tool didn't get critical mass until
data access technologies were introduced ~ VB3 (mid 90's). Up until then,
mainframe dumb terminal interfaces ('firehose') were the rule of the day.
Macromedia is opening up HUGE doors here to the Enterprise as their tools
fully mature, and it's up to developers (read us) to kick those doors
down...
Keep in mind, you wanna use the right tool for the job. But Macromedia is
making it very difficult indeed to not consider their tool offerings when
decision-time comes...
Just my $0.03 (adjusted for inflation), however, your actual mileage may
vary...
--
Dok
Skyymap Inc.
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike
Mountain
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 7:37 AM
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Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Ajax and Flash
Success won't be down to just ease of development or features, it will
depend on backing from early adopters. Most sites that you'd think would
benefit form an RIA (banking, shopping, auctions etc.) are still using
fairly old (read reliable) set ups. They are more IA's than RIA's - sure
we're seeing a few mapping tools and webmail apps using flash, ajax and even
java applets (www.rac.com - best mapping tool going) but most serious apps
where people are spending money are done the old way.
Watch Google, Amazon, Ebay, play.com and Yahoo (a macromedia partner so it's
fairly easy to guess where they're going to go).
It'll also depends on the backing of developers and designers - Flash is so
ubiquitous now thanks to lots of designers thinking 'cool' and then tagging
a really annoying intro to the front of a site (remember eye4u
anyone?) - it got the player out there.
Ajax won't go away, neither will Flash, as for Sparkle and Flex2? Who knows
- they both sound so promising but that means nothing.
M
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