"there is still a lot of room for style with UI design ..."

Definitely agree...this is the main reason people like me (with a C or Java
designing background) turn to flash and flex, to offer real ria experiences,
that have 'style'.  

But im glad I did the 'windows app consulting' route, as it sure teaches you
a lot about what people think they want, and what they actually want.

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cedric
Muller
Sent: 15 November 2005 09:11
To: Flashcoders mailing list
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Flex Style Flash MX2004 Components

I think this is just about 'state' :
car + shoe businesses are mature: from functionality we went to form UI
design is in very early stages of development ...we are still struggling
with functionality

there is still a lot of room for style with UI design ...

but you are right ... you're so right ;)

on the other side we can see that Flash picture viewers are better than any
other gallery system ... and will even replace desktop picture viewers in
the forthcoming future ...
so Picture Viewers are no applications ?

Cedric


> Consumers push the shoe car and computer market to offer diversity.   I
> don't remember a software consumer complaining that their gui control 
> was too familiar or easy to use ;-)
>
> As an aside, I love the book 'About Face:  Interaction Design' which 
> has a chapter on designing interactions, and the differences between a 
> visual artist (someone who wants to provoke a reaction to their piece 
> of art) and a visual designer (someone who has to represent software 
> behaviour based on the goals of other people).
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cedric 
> Muller
> Sent: 15 November 2005 08:44
> To: Flashcoders mailing list
> Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Flex Style Flash MX2004 Components
>
> same with shoes, cars and computers ..
> yep, we are in That World :-)
>
>> I disagree...users don't give a damn whether a component is skinned 
>> or not, but whether it works as a piece of UI.  How many different 
>> comboboxes do we need in the world??
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
>> JesterXL
>> Sent: 14 November 2005 21:06
>> To: Flashcoders mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Flex Style Flash MX2004 Components
>>
>> I find just the opposite; I think it's easier in Flex.
>>
>> I'm with you, though.  The pendulum has swung too far to the other 
>> side.
>> Pre-Flash MX, it was "no Flash UI assets look the same".  Now, post 
>> Flex 1.5 it's "all Flex apps look the same".
>>
>> Mars needs women.  Flex needs UI designers.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Johannes Nel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "Flashcoders mailing list" <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 4:01 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Flex Style Flash MX2004 Components
>>
>>
>> yeah, they do look better than the IDE ones, but its easier to skin 
>> stuff in flash than flex from my experience thus far. due to this we 
>> are seeing more and more apps looking very similiar, which as a 
>> non-designer i think sucks.
>>
>> On 11/14/05, JesterXL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>> The Flex ones look better. Before people realized they were coded 
>>> better, a few wanted the look and feel since it was refined.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Dustin Krysak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "Flashcoders mailing list" <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 3:48 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Flex Style Flash MX2004 Components
>>>
>>>
>>> Maybe in case there are aspects of a project developed in both flash 
>>> and flex?
>>>
>>> Not sure otherwise.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 14-Nov-05, at 12:45 PM, Johannes Nel wrote:
>>>
>>>> why????????????????????????
>>>>
>>>> On 11/14/05, Hindman, Jeff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Nope ...
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.dwuser.com/flexcomponents/
>>>>>
>>>>> -- Jeff Hindman
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Pete Hotchkiss [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>> Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 10:43 AM
>>>>> To: 'Flashcoders mailing list'
>>>>> Subject: [Flashcoders] Flex Style Flash MX2004 Components
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I have a very vague recollection of somebody somewhere creating a 
>>>>> set of Flex Styled components for Flash MX2004 - was I dreaming ?
>>>>>
>>>>>
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