Hi Audry,

Been in your situation quite a few times myself.  My line of thought goes a
little like this:

First off, there is NOTHING that cannot be cracked.  You can only make it
more difficult for the hacker.  So it's not a question of 'secure' vs 'not
secure', it's a question of 'how difficult do we want to make it for hackers
to get to the data'.  It may be appropriate to secure only against the
casual hacker, or it may be that losing the data would mean the end of your
company.  It all depends on what you're securing.

Since you mentioned art elements specifically, I would point out that all
you need to steal art is the "print screen" button on the Windows keyboard.
If you can see it on the screen, no matter what technology is being used to
deliver it, you can capture it into a file and manipulate it to your liking.
For art elements, I think that Flash is more secure than gif or jpg, simply
because there's no "Right-click > Save Picture As".

With regard to the "sign-in" functionality, this can be done securely
through Flash, but only in combination with some server-side code.  NEVER
store a username/password in a SWF file.  All authentication must be handled
server-side.  For login functionality, it's my belief that Flash can be as
secure as a web page.

Amayeta SWFEncrypt is a good product if you want to protect ActionScript
from casual hackers.  I tested it a few months back against the popular
decompilers, and at that time it never failed.  However, the people who make
the decompilers are constantly updating their products to work against the
obfuscators (like SWFEncrypt).  Ultimately, whatever you put in a SWF can be
extracted, if the cracker is motivated enough.

This is true of all programs, however.  Even Windows be decompiled and
tinkered with.  So it comes back to the value judgment... Is it worth paying
a security expert tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars to make sure my
data never falls into the wrong hands (as in the case of credit card
numbers) or is a cheap software obfuscation program enough to protect it (as
in the case of drawings that can be screen-captured anyway).

Hope that helps.


-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Audry Taylor
Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 1:59 PM
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Subject: [Flashcoders] Newbie & security issues?

Hey everyone!  I'm new here so just steer me in the right direction if I get

off-topic without realizing it.  I'm in the middle of convincing my company 
that we should include some fun Flash games on our company website using art

elements from some original IPs.  They're concerned that Flash can be 
cracked too easily, putting our art elements at risk of being stolen.  
Anybody got some arguments I can use to back up my faith in Flash?  The 
other concern my bosses have is that since we want to add registration to 
our website so that members can have access to these free games, it's 
important to protect our member's personal info, even if it's just a 
nickname and password.  If the member has to sign in inside a flash game, 
for example, is there a risk that their information could be stolen?

Speaking of which, I've heard Amayeta SWF Encrypt is good.  Can anyone vouch

for it or do you know if it's been cracked by anyone?

You guys are the hardcore coders so I figured you could help me come up with

the most compelling answers to give my bosses.  I have read about security 
issues on the Macromedia website and relayed that information to them 
already but they are still indecisive about this matter.

In spite of some of its limitation, Flash is a really cool program.  IMO.  
^_^

Audry Taylor
Creative Director
Go! Comi
http://www.gocomi.com

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