gotta love gmail ;) here's the rest of the email... while, it doesn't pause the player (only the flash debugger with the debug player can do this btw), it DOES do everything else the flash debugger does and a ton more.
You can look at any complex object at runtime, you can send that object to Xray's trace ( _global.tt() ) and it will recursively trace out the entire object. Likewise, you can inspect any object in the property inspector AND change it's properties at runtime. If that wasn't enough, you can run actionscript using the execute/trace window - actionscript not compiled with the swf, but that you write and run using xray at runtime. Since I can't pause the player and do debugging the way you've specified, I've basically abandoned that way completely and found other ways (using xray) that work prefectly well. In fact, I've never felt at a loss not being able to use break points - though, if I had that ability, I'm sure I'd enjoy using them. With xray's trace and runtime tools, I've never felt handicapped at all. I do wish they'd open up the ability to use breakpoints with external debuggers. I wish Xray could be the tool that met your needs the way YOUR used to debugging. Who knows, maybe they will with Flash 9 - we can only hope ;) JG On 5/16/06, AJ Canepa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Dan and John, Thanks for your help. I took a look at the Xray video tutorials. It seems like a great data inspection / manipulation tool, and I will definitely use it on future projects. Nice work John. It doesn't have all of the functionality that I require from an interactive debugger, though, so I can't really use it as a substitute for the Flash debugger. There is no way to set a breakpoint or pause code execution, so there is really no way to use it, for example, to debug issues during object model initialization; examine the transaction data of a transient data set returned from a web service; or trace the flow of control through a series of object instances. Most of the Flash I work with tends to have these characteristics. I have been working on a different set of classes within my same project today, and was able to successfully use the Flash 8 debugger without a crash. That indicates to me that there is a specific bug in the Flash 8 debugger that is triggered by specific code within my project, because when I'm working in this other area of my code I see reproducible crashes. Now to figure out precisely what triggers this bug. I'll report here if I determine the cause. Thanks again. AJ Canepa Runtime Logic www.runtimelogic.com On May 15, 2006, at 6:13 PM, John Grden wrote: > when trying xray, be sure to check out the basic videos on how to > use it. > It's very simple, but the videos can really get you going very quickly > > http://labs.blitzagency.com/wp-content/xray/videos/tutorials/ > indexFlash.html > > if you have questions, don't hesitate to ask ;) > > JG > > On 5/15/06, Dan Efergan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> I haven't had the debugger crashing, but it tends to hang on the evil >> beach ball (Mac) for what seems like infinity, if trying to do any >> kind of intensive repetitive tasks (decompiling large amounts of XML >> is always a killer). >> >> Probably not that useful, as the exact same thing happened in 2004 as >> well. I usually tend to give up on the debugger for large projects >> and start using too many traces. >> >> You tried http://osflash.org/xray . Not much experience with it, but >> might be a different way of getting in there. >> >> Dan >> >> On 15 May 2006, at 23:09, AJ Canepa wrote: >> >> > Has anyone experienced similar issues with debugger stability under >> > Flash 8? >> >> Dan Efergan >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com >> To change your subscription options or search the archive: >> http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders >> >> Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software >> Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training >> http://www.figleaf.com >> http://training.figleaf.com >> > > > > -- > John Grden - Blitz > _______________________________________________ > Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com > To change your subscription options or search the archive: > http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders > > Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software > Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training > http://www.figleaf.com > http://training.figleaf.com > _______________________________________________ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
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