" > I think that's false.  There are lots of people who are interested in
using frameworks and using them completely.

We have to agree to disagree on this one."

Thinking about it again, I think you're right on one point.  There's
certainly no reason that using their framework should break native Flash
code.  That's just sloppy.  But, as it is a framework, I think it's totally
legit that it makes you do certain things certain ways.

"It's not like Rails makes other parts of Ruby break."

Case in point - to use Rails, you must do things inn VERY specific ways.
Rails is all about convention, and if you don't adhere to its conventions,
you will be boned.

To sum up, my point is that frameworks shouldn't break anything.  But also
that people should expect when using a framework that they might have to do
things in certain ways.  Seems obvious, but wasn't clear in my last post...

That's all,

Jim Kremens


On 6/29/06, John Mark Hawley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

DepthManager and FocusManager cause a few headaches for people used to
working without the MM components. Granted, nowhere near as bad as XP is
sounding in this thread, but still...

-mark hawley

>
> From: "Steven Sacks | BLITZ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2006/06/29 Thu PM 02:39:22 CDT
> To: "Flashcoders mailing list" <flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com>
> Subject: RE: [SPAM?] RE: [Flashcoders] XPcomponents set
>
> > MM did that as well, did you say scam then too ?
>
> With the exception of the DRK series of components, MM's components came
> free with Flash.
>
> And I don't recall any MM components that caused other things to break
> in your application.  The components themselves were buggy and certain
> components didn't play nicely with others, but they didn't require you
> to build your application in a very specific way.
>
> The scam is not that the XP Components break native Flash code.  The
> scam is that they're not components, it's an entire architecture you
> must adhere to but they call them components on their website, IMPLYING
> that they are COMPONENTS not a FRAMEWORK.
>
> XPFramework would be honest.
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