Thanks again Geoff. It means a lot coming from you as you've invested so
much time thinking about it.
Kurt
At 10:10 AM 10/17/2006, you wrote:
most of my projects these days do have express install enabled, so i
use the same code that is in the 'basic w/ express install' example.
swfobject doesn't really do much in the way of express install - all
it does is check to see if the user needs the upgrade or not, and
then pass some vars into your flash movie.
once the movie gets those vars, it just laods a swf from adobe and it
takes care of the rest. you do have control over which url is passed
into the swf, and that determines where the user is sent after the
install is done (by default it's the current page's url, but you can
change it by using the xiRedirectUrl attribute.
but rest assured, it does in fact work most of the time - i think the
issues you are having are probably rare things that may be caused by
your specific machine setup, and won't be seen by your users. there's
hundreds (thousands?) of websites using this daily, and like you
said, even if they aren't redirected back, they still get the updated
player and will hopefully find their way back to your site just like
they did in the 'old days' before express install existed.
On Oct 17, 2006, at 9:26 AM, Kurt Dommermuth wrote:
Hi Geoff,
thank you for the clarification.
so, as the creator of SWFobject, I'm sure you've put a ton of
thought into this. (THANK YOU!)
I want to do the best thing. would you say "Basic Flash Embed with
Express Install allowed " is the best option? Or does it still
succumb to the problem you outlined below?
Basically, .... what do you use?
also, yes, I did initially try testing on a local machine, but
ultimately tested on a remote server. The results are inconsistent.
thanks again,
Kurt
At 08:37 AM 10/17/2006, you wrote:
there's one other issue with expressinstall, and that is if you are
using IE, and some other program on your system is using the flash
player .ocx file, then when you finish the upgrade, and your original
browser window closes and the new one opens, the page will still
think that you have the older flash player installed... so it will
prompt to start the install all over again.
this mostly happens with people using MSN messenger with the flash
player in it (not sure the details, but i guess they have some skins
or something that use flash?) this causes the ocx file to be locked
and the upgrade can't finish until they quit all the apps that use
the flash player. then everything is fine.
as for your general issues with the upgrade: the first thing to test,
is are you testing it on a web server? the redirect won't work if you
are launching it from a local file - this is a common mistake people
make when testing it.
On Oct 17, 2006, at 8:05 AM, Kurt Dommermuth wrote:
HI Toby,
Thanks for the comments. Can I get your opinion on something?
I've gone the route of using express install because it seemed to
be that at worst you wouldn't be redirected back.
Are there other risks?
Thanks,
Kurt
At 06:45 AM 10/17/2006, you wrote:
Can I recommend you subscribe to the SWFobject list and post this
question
there > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On the point of the issue you are experiencing I would have
thought this
could have been also been influenced by browser behaviour and the
installers
behaviour, regardless of SWFObject, infact, I doubt SWFObject
has any
control over the installer or what it does after it has
installed...
although that is pure guesswork!
OT: I think you will be lucky if you manage to get the express
install to
work identically on a lot of browsers over the next year,
especially with
IE7 coming out. Personally I would hold your horses depending on
the
commercial status of the website you are attaching this
functionality too.
Hope the ramblings help!
T
> -----Original Message-----
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>>>> >> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kurt Dommermuth
> Sent: 16 October 2006 18:57
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> Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Express Install (again)
>
> A follow-up.
>
> It just worked on one and not the other. So freakin' erratic.
>
> will there ever be solid flash detection?
>
>
>
>
>
> At 01:53 PM 10/16/2006, you wrote:
>
> >Hello All,
> >
> >I've seen a few posts regarding express install/ swfObject/ ufo
etc..
> >
> >I'm having a problem with both Adobe's express install scheme
and
> swfObject.
> >
> >IE 6 works fine.
> >
> >Firefox (1.5.0.7) forces me to close the browser. No redirect
back.
> >
> >I've tried on two different computers. no joy.
> >
> >Anyone else experience this? Is this a known problem? Any fix?
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Kurt
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