>>sure, i think that you are making a mistake though not testing for a >>flash version number.
Thanks, I totally understand where you are coming from, but as I said, we know what version the users have, and will have at certain points in time - the bank pushes it and we have a very tightly controlled environment for installs. On rare occasions, there are users who don't get the push for certain reasons, but would not have any version of the Flash player at all, they don't have admin rights to install their own version, they can only get the version the bank pushes. So they only have version X or no version at all. We might have a need for version checks in the future, and I would use swf object or something like it, but for now, we don't want to do this. We're stubborn Bank people. :) Jason Merrill Bank of America Learning & Organizational Effectiveness >>-----Original Message----- >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders- >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Geoff Stearns >>Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 5:26 PM >>To: Flashcoders mailing list >>Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Simple Flash player detection without versioning? >> >>sure, i think that you are making a mistake though not testing for a >>flash version number. >> >>if you have flash 8 content, and you user has flash player 7 (or >>lower) - your method would still embed the swf into the page, and the >>user's flash player would attempt to play that swf... often resulting >>in very strange things happening. maybe some stuff won't show up, >>maybe it will show up partially, maybe it will just be an empty >>box... it depends on the content. >> >>i completely understand your wanting to roll your own thing, that's >>why I wrote swfobject in the first place - all of the existing >>solutions weren't that great - overly bulky or too complicated to >>use, or sometimes just plain didn't work for the situations i needed. >> >>that said, i think you should take a good look at the whole package - >>it's very small and super easy to use, and lets you rest well knowing >>that your users don't get wacky content showing up. We use it on tons >>of high profile websites every day, and thousands of other people do >>as well (go and pick just about any flash site or flash movie these >>days and view source, i bet 8/10 times you'll see swfobject there in >>the source). >> >>it's just one file, not an entire framework or app to maintain. >> >> >>On Nov 9, 2006, at 4:51 PM, Merrill, Jason wrote: >> >>> FYI - I looked in more detail at swfobject as was suggested and the >>> only >>> think I needed to pull out of it and plug into our other detection and >>> embedding scripts was in the catch/try statements: >>> >>> axo = new ActiveXObject("ShockwaveFlash.ShockwaveFlash"); >>> >>> Not specifying a version number. Thanks to Geoff who suggested I just >>> pull out part of swfobject. >>> >>> Re: swfobject suggestions, I think I was really trying to get down >>> to a >>> "teach me to fish, don't give me a fish" kind of a thing because of >>> our >>> IT requirements, but I found the code I needed so I can fish. Thanks. >>> >>> Jason Merrill >>> Bank of America >>> Learning & Organizational Effectiveness >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders- >>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Merrill, Jason >>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 4:43 PM >>>>> To: Flashcoders mailing list >>>>> Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Simple Flash player detection without >>> versioning? >>>>> >>>>>>> swfobject is only 6.7kb... it doesn't get much lighter than that. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> if you *really* need something smaller (which sounds like a >>>>>>> ridiculous need to me) >>>>> >>>>> Before you actually think I have a "ridiculous need" - I'm not >>>>> talking >>>>> about filesize necessarily, I'm also talking about controlling >>>>> large >>>>> amounts of sourcecode - in this case, code we didn't write - or at >>> least >>>>> being able to understand/navigate all of it. And this is code that >>> will >>>>> be propagated to other systems and servers. I work for a Bank, you >>> can >>>>> imagine what that can mean from an IT perspective. :) >>>>> >>>>> Shoot me for not wanting to use swfobject out of the box and roll my >>> own >>>>> - but I will take a look at what we could pull out of it as you >>>>> suggested. Thanks, >>>>> >>>>> Jason Merrill >>>>> Bank of America >>>>> Learning & Organizational Effectiveness >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> To change your subscription options or search the archive: >>>>> http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders >>>>> >>>>> Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software >>>>> Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training >>>>> http://www.figleaf.com >>>>> http://training.figleaf.com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> [email protected] >>> To change your subscription options or search the archive: >>> http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders >>> >>> Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software >>> Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training >>> http://www.figleaf.com >>> http://training.figleaf.com >> >>_______________________________________________ >>[email protected] >>To change your subscription options or search the archive: >>http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders >> >>Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software >>Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training >>http://www.figleaf.com >>http://training.figleaf.com _______________________________________________ [email protected] To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
