I wasn't even aware of Flash Newbies before finding FlashCoders. I'm sure I posted a few questions here that were better suited for Flash Newbies. I think it's a publicity problem more than anything - when I did a Google search to find flash help, I don't think I ever got an archived version of a FlashNewbies in the response, but quite a few from FlashCoders.
I've just subscribed to flash newbies, so hopefully I'll be able to help out. I think encouraging flashcoders to also subscribe to flash newbies would be the best solution. Daniel Holth I.S. Programmer x5217 || J401 -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Merrill, Jason Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 9:16 AM To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Motion to combine coders and newbies. I appreciate the arguments and kind words, but I vote to keep them separate. Here's why: 1) Flashnewbies does have some rather advanced topics from time to time, but we need to help those people graduate to flashcoders, or if they don't get an answer, encourage them to ask on Flashcoders. 2) Flashnewbies is low-traffic (but not REAL low, I still see a dozen or more messages a day), but that's a good thing in some ways. 3) Flashnewbies is a good place to ask non-coding Flash questions, like questions about the IDE or general strategy. 4) Flashbnewbies is (sorry to say), so much more polite, personal, and friendly than Flashcoders. Mixing the two, we'd lose that. Flashcoders is a huge 2000-unit townhome development in the city. Flashnewbies is a small 10 home neighborhood in the country. 5) People who don't get the help they need on Flashnewbies should ask on Flashcoders anyway. 6) Flashcoders don't want to see a bunch of newbie questions on this list, especially when the same questions get asked over and over. It will add traffic they don't want to have to sort or mentally ignore. 7) More Flashcoders should consider subscribing to Flashnewbies just to help people out. Think of it as community service. You might even learn some things (I do). :) 8) If this proposal requires further consideration, we should at least open the same thread on Flashnewbies to get input from people over there. Anyway, nice ideas, but personally, I don't think it would be the best thing to combine the lists, no offense. Jason Merrill Bank of America GT&O Learning & Leadership Development eTools & Multimedia Team >>-----Original Message----- >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf >>Of Count Schemula >>Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2007 8:54 PM >>To: flashcoders list >>Subject: [Flashcoders] Motion to combine coders and newbies. >> >>Hear me out before freaking out. >> >>1. Half of the posts in Coders are more or less Newbie posts anyhow. >> >>2. There is just not a lot of traffic in Newbies. So, it's >>hard to pick Coders brains and honestly, most Newbie >>questions can be answered by a Coder in less than a minute. I >>post in Newbies, but answers can take days. Seems like Jason >>Merrill is one of the few Coders dedicated to helping out >>those less fortunate. >> >>3. Making Newbies stronger benefits all. After a while, a >>typical dedicated Newbie will be able to field a lot of the >>other Newbie questions and the situation will level out. >> >>4. But oh, the increased traffic! Please. I have a dedicated >>gmail account for this list. It threads the posts together >>and has practically unlimited storage and very good search. >> >>5. Pound home the idea that Newbies need to title their posts as such >>"No0b: How do I make a movie clip?" Coders don't have to do anything. >> >>6. What's good for Flash developers is good for the Flash Platform. >>Getting more Newbies to an intermediate level benefits the >>Flash Platform as a whole with better apps, better people in >>jobs to lobby for Flash, etc, etc. >> >>Ok, now you can freak out. >> >>-- >>count_schemula >>_______________________________________________ >>Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com >>To change your subscription options or search the archive: >>http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders >> >>Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software >>Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training >>http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com >> _______________________________________________ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com This e-mail and its attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee(s) and may contain privileged, confidential or proprietary information. 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