Hi All, Thanks for all the great advice. Seems like everyone is suggesting around the £40-60 mark if quoting per hour. But if quoting a fixed amount then it should be considerably more.
Cheers! 2009/10/12 Hans Wichman <j.c.wich...@objectpainters.com> > Hi Steven, > > excuse my ignorance, but as a non native English person what is T&M NET > 15/30? Couldn't find it on google. > > regards, > Hans > > On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 8:23 AM, Steven Sacks <flash...@stevensacks.net > >wrote: > > > I do not do fixed bid projects. I always do T&M NET 15/30, and don't have > > an issue selling my work that way. > > > > If you want me to do a fixed bid project, I'm bidding on exactly what the > > scope is right now. If there is any change in scope, production will > stop > > as I assess the impact such a change will have on the schedule (my > > assessment is billable), and take time to modify the contract to reflect > the > > change in scope and cost, and you will need to review and approve these > > changes in writing, all of which take time spent not developing and puts > > your deadline in jeopardy. However, with T&M, I get paid for the work I > do, > > and you have full flexibility in making as many changes as you like, with > > the knowledge that development never stops, though the deadline may be > > affected by your changes. > > > > Something to that effect. > > > > > > > > Kerry Thompson wrote: > > > >> Steven Sacks wrote: > >> > >> You need to charge for time spent babysitting the client. That's > billable > >>> time. > >>> > >> > >> Absolutely true, with one kicker: a fixed bid. A lot of clients want to > >> shift the risk to you, the freelancer, so they ask for a fixed-price bid > >> rather than an hourly rate. > >> > >> My advice is to be very, very careful with these. My experience shows > that > >> clients rarely, if ever, know just what they need. They will give you an > >> idea, but there will inevitably be extras that simply must be done. > Initial > >> estimates of the amount of work needed are almost always off by a factor > of > >> at least two, often up to a factor of 10. If you underbid one of these > >> contracts, you could spend a year to earn $20,000. > >> > >> Be up front with the client in this case. You are bidding on the project > >> as it is currently designed. Changes and additions will be billed extra. > You > >> must do this to survive, or your client will bury you with feature > creep. > >> > >> Be positive about it, of course. When they request an additional > feature, > >> say "Sure, we can do that. It will cost you $4,000 and add two weeks to > the > >> schedule. I'll get started on it just as soon as I get an amendment to > the > >> contract." > >> > >> Also, on a fixed-bid contract, get at least 25% up front. If you bill > only > >> on milestones, can you live off your savings until they approve the > >> prototype, or the alpha? I can't--I'm lucky that my wife has a > well-paying > >> job. > >> > >> Cordially, > >> > >> Kerry Thompson > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Flashcoders mailing list > >> Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com > >> http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > > Flashcoders mailing list > > Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com > > http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders > > > _______________________________________________ > Flashcoders mailing list > Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com > http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders > -- Mike Cann http://www.mikecann.co.uk/ http://www.artificialgames.co.uk/ _______________________________________________ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
