Solved... (teddy bear helped gain) The case that made me post to the list is such a coincidence, that was hard to reproduce on other computers.
I use freeware MacAfee for virus protection. One of its services - McAfee Redirector Service is capable of changing HTML contents (others than localhost). But of course not for all cases and in fact this was the first occurrence I noticed. So far I found that it fights out any string in <embed src="..... "/> containing &nodemapid= variable. It strips out the whole <embed> tag producing something like: <object><!-- --></object> After turning off the McAfee Red. Serv., page sources in FF and IE (Win/Pc) look as expected; no stripping, i.e.: <object><embed src="nodemapid="></embed></object> There might be other variable names that are blocked by McAfee, so in case of strange behavior in HTML sources, specifically related to embedding objects, controls etc. I would suggest checking virus scanners and related software (nothing new in this, but it is easy to forget this direction). Best, Greg Monday, November 23, 2009 (10:24:37 PM): > Continuing... I tested my two links with Mac version of FF. Both work > fine - no stripping <embed>, so the issue is probably only PC IE/FF > related (assuming it is not my PC and only my PC). > g > Monday, November 23, 2009 (8:59:58 PM) Greg Ligierko wrote: >> Thanks, >> Yes I am aware of the swfObject. >> We are working on an Flash application that can be embedded from >> external hosts, by any user, and we do not like to force users to >> store additional JS, like swfObject at their hosts. Instead we prefer >> to relay on the official nested <object><embed> thing. I am aware of >> weakness of this solution, but this is still not the point of my mail. >> I just discovered that on my PC (both FF and IE) any page that uses >> <object><embed src=".......&nodemapid=....."/></object> ends up with >> stripped off <embed> tag. >> Of course I can change the variable nodemapid name to something else. >> But I just would like to inspect if it is really possible, that a >> variable "nodemapid" can cause different behavior (i.e. stripping out >> <embed> under some browsers) than any other variable name. >> The small HTMLs I linked in my first mail are not meant to embed >> anything real, but just to test the "nodemapid" variable, which is >> driving me crazy. And possibly this is only my local computer >> behavior. I did not found anything related on google. In fact >> "nodemapid" gives less than 300 results ;) >> Greg >> Monday, November 23, 2009 (8:44:57 PM) Nathan Mynarcik wrote: >>> Hopefully I am understanding what you are trying to do. Have you >>> thought of using swfobject for your flash files? I think this would >>> be the best way to handle what you are trying to do. You can then >>> add your "nomapid" to the parameters of your flash movie and should work >>> with all browsers. >>> code.google.com/p/swfobject >>> ------Original Message------ >>> From: Greg Ligierko >>> Sender: [email protected] >>> To: Flash Coders List >>> ReplyTo: Flashcoders >>> ReplyTo: Flash Coders List >>> Subject: [Flashcoders] A variable "nodemapid=" makes <embed> gone (IE and >>> FF) >>> Sent: Nov 23, 2009 1:29 PM >>> I have a strange issue with a http variable in <embed> tag and I would >>> appreciate much if you test two links with short HTML code. >>> I prepared two ultra-thin HTMLs. >>> http://www.l-d5.com/sn/embed8.htm >>> its source code is: >>> <object><embed src="nodemapid="/></object> >>> http://www.l-d5.com/sn/embed9.htm >>> its source code is: >>> <object><embed src="nodemapidq="/></object> (note the "q" character) >>> Now... for embed8.htm, IE7 and FF(3.5.5) show source ("view page source"): >>> <object><!-- --></object> (removed <embed>) >>> While for embed9.htm, both browsers show the expected source: >>> <object><embed src="nodemapidq="/></object> >>> Safari shows full code for both files. >>> Can you see this too ? Or perhaps this is some local issue of my PC ? >>> Thanks, >>> Greg >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Flashcoders mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders >>> Nathan Mynarcik >>> Interactive Web Developer >>> [email protected] >>> 254.749.2525 >>> www.mynarcik.com >> _______________________________________________ >> Flashcoders mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders _______________________________________________ Flashcoders mailing list [email protected] http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
