Hi,

Just a short question ... what problems are you actually having with Jira? Is 
it the availability of an instance? The migration of Issues allready reported 
to Adobe? ... I would assume there is a huge bunch of old issues that should be 
migrated into the Apache Flex Jira. After stepping in to continue work on 
Flexmojos, one of my first tasks was to migrate the Sonatype Jira Issues to the 
new Flexmojos Jira ... I created a Java based tool that does this via REST 
interface (And a lot of hand-written Json requests). So If this is indeed your 
main problem with Jira, just contact me and I'll send you my migrator code.

I too have seen several developers turn their backs on Flex, but those were 
mainly people that never really got very far in learning Flex. For me and my 
company Flex is still ultra-important and will be for the future. That's also 
one of the reasons for me taking over in the Flexmojos project. For me the 
change of Flex mooving to Apache offers more chances than risks. I know the 
first start will be hard, as it allways is as soon as you are presented a huge 
pile of code that you now have to start maintaining, but I guess on the long 
run there will be by far mor benefits from it. Just to name some:
- Perhaps Flex SDK will eventually be available for Maven
- Freely available Automation will eventually make more and better tools 
available
- Mabe some day we will have a Profiler that will work in other IDEs (Don't 
know if this is a Flex or a FB + FP thing)

Well those were my 50ct :-)

Chris




-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Justin Mclean [mailto:jus...@classsoftware.com] 
Gesendet: Dienstag, 5. Juni 2012 04:44
An: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org
Betreff: Re: Review after first months of Apache Flex, new guidelines and 
keeping Flex alive

Hi,

I also had hoped we would be a lot further along in the process by now. There's 
a variety of reasons for this, but it's just mostly it's that things just have 
taken a lot longer than everyone originally expected.
 
We are still trying to sort out the JIRA infrastructure (there been work on 
this and last I heard they were about to do a test import again), the full 
Mustalla test suite (Adobe have donated the checkin tests and tests for button) 
and working the parity 4.6 SDK release (which need to abide by certain fairly 
restrictive conditions to what can/cant be packaged in it). While I couldn't 
predict when those 3 things will be complete significant progress have been 
made on all of them.

Adobe does have full time resources (Alex and Carol) working on further 
donations and getting the first parity release out the door and others are 
helping where they can/as required.

Once these 3 items are complete (JIRA, testing framework, initial parity 
release)  we'll likely to see a lot more activity from current committers and 
Flex SDK  users and then Adobe resources can work on donation of other parts of 
Flex SDK that are yet to be donated (like automation, new spark  components, 
new compiler etc).

I have quite a few things I would like to work on (time permitting) but without 
JIRA and a full testing framework it's difficult to be able to commit patches 
and new code to the SDK.

>      - We are attached to an application that could die at anytime as have
>      already happened Flash Catalyst, Flash Player Debugger for Linux and
>      others.
The Flex SDK is not a product as such so can't suffer the same fate as say 
Catalyst. The Flash Player  is still being supported by Adobe and is part  of 
Adobe's future plans. I assume you've seen the FlashPlayer roadmap for the next 
several versions of the Flash Player?
http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flashplatform/whitepapers/roadmap.html

>   - there is a really fast movement from people that loved Flex to
>   technologies such as javascript + html5 + css3, including some core people
>   from Apache Flex.
Some of the "core" people are exploring the use of other technologies but that 
is normal, being a programmer/developer mean continual learning and playing 
about with new technologies. I been using Javascript since way back in the 
IE3/Netscape days and I'll use it again but that doesn't mean I'm moving away 
from Flex. :-)

>   - some flex projects are becoming ghosts (no commits for quite some time)
Any projects in particular? I know for instance FlexLib hasn't been getting a 
lot of love but that was the case well before Flex moved to Apache. as3 commons 
on the other hand is in active development. One way to try and fix this would 
be to try and get people from this list involved in contributing to those 
projects.

>   - blogs about flex are dying or moving to other technologies
IMO Blogs tend to written about new "exciting" emerging technologies. Flex as a 
mature and proven technology doesn't attract the large audience that most 
bloggers want.

Thanks,
Justin

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