Thanks for all the inormation, I've updated the project pom to use the
default external scope when building swc files which is working well.

How in flexmojos do I build the -all swc then, which maven goal?

Cheers,

mischa.

On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 7:12 PM, Marvin Froeder <[email protected]> wrote:
> FWIW, projects, in general, call this uber jar as -all .... like
> hamcrest-all and many other :P
>
> On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 2:18 PM, Bryan Turner <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> CGLIB offers a normal jar, whiich requires that you have dependencies,
>> transitive or otherwise, for all of its dependencies. They also offer a
>> -nodeps-suffixed jar which has those various dependencies included so that
>> you don't have to include them yourself.
>>
>> Basically it's just like what you just said. A normal version of the SWC
>> which contains only itself, and an uber (-nodeps) version of the SWC which
>> has those things included.
>>
>> On Oct 16, 2010 9:17 AM, "Mischa Williamson" <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> > Thanks for the opinion Bryan, I'm not sure what you mean by "-nodeps"
>> > in this context...
>> >
>> > I'm planning on offering both options, POM dependencies and these
>> > uber-swcs for non-maven build processes.
>> >
>> > I've still got a lot to learn about flexmojos+maven - but at least I
>> > feel like I'm making some progress ;)
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> >
>> > mischa.
>> >
>> > On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 9:33 PM, Bryan Turner <[email protected]>
>> > wrote:
>> >> You might consider -nodeps versions of your swcs, Mischa. For those of
>> >> us
>> >> that are Maven+FlexMojos shops, the sort of uber swcs you're building
>> >> are
>> >> not desirable. The Maven dependency:sources calls don't play well with
>> >> those
>> >> sorts of artifacts (since usually the source for the artifact only has
>> >> its
>> >> direct source in it, but the artifact itself includes other libraries
>> >> in
>> >> compiled form). Just a thought.
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 11:14 AM, Mischa Williamson
>> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks for the advice, I'm planning on distributing the swcs in such a
>> >>> way
>> >>> that they can be used outside a maven build. Although maven+flexmojos
>> >>> rocks,
>> >>> many people still use old school dependency management...
>> >>> Cheers,
>> >>>
>> >>> mischa.
>> >>> On 14 Oct 2010, at 18:55, Marvin Froeder <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Well, that trick makes sense when using ant, since there is no
>> >>> dependency
>> >>> concept....
>> >>>
>> >>> On mavne, you can depend in one module and it will pull all dependent
>> >>> in.
>> >>> I wouldn't manually build this uber SWC....  unless you are publishing
>> >>> that
>> >>> for ant/flexbuilder clients....
>> >>>
>> >>> VELO
>> >>>
>> >>> On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 2:07 PM, Mischa Williamson
>> >>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> All the merged dependencies I am declaring are my own libraries.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> The idea is this, for each package (discrete bit of functionality) I
>> >>>> create a swc which merges it's dependencies so that the swc can be
>> >>>> used standalone. I then have "combined" modules that create higher
>> >>>> level packages (eg: com.ffsys.utils) that compiles all the
>> >>>> sub-packages using the internal scope.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> That way I can declare a higher level dependency when I want all the
>> >>>> "utils" code or if I just need the string utils I can just add a
>> >>>> dependency for that.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> It saves me declaring lots of dependencies individually when I really
>> >>>> just want all the "utils" to be available at compile time.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Hope that makes sense.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Cheers,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> mischa.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 5:48 PM, Marvin Froeder <[email protected]>
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>> > Ok, but I would really advice you on SWC projects to keep all
>> >>>> > dependencies
>> >>>> > with external scope.... that way is more likely people will be able
>> >>>> > to
>> >>>> > use a
>> >>>> > 3rd party dependency on a different version then you are.
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > VELO
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 1:44 PM, Mischa Williamson
>> >>>> > <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >> Many thanks for the information, so it's the change to the default
>> >>>> >> scope when compiling swc files that appears to be causing the
>> >>>> >> problem.
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >> I'll attempt to change the project dependencies and let you know
>> >>>> >> how I
>> >>>> >> go.
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >> Thanks for the help,
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >> mischa.
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >> On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 5:33 PM, Marvin Froeder
>> >>>> >> <[email protected]>
>> >>>> >> wrote:
>> >>>> >> > The scopes compile, provided, system and runtime have no meaning
>> >>>> >> > inside
>> >>>> >> > flexmojos....
>> >>>> >> >
>> >>>> >> >
>> >>>> >> >
>> >>>> >> > https://docs.sonatype.org/display/FLEXMOJOS/Adding+libraries+to+compilation
>> >>>> >> >
>> >>>> >> > What flexmojos really understands is merged, internal, external,
>> >>>> >> > rsl,
>> >>>> >> > caching and test....  unfortunately pom.xml doesn't have room to
>> >>>> >> > express
>> >>>> >> > that information, so I have to overwrite the scopes with it.
>> >>>> >> >
>> >>>> >> > On flexmojos 4.0 I attended to a old feature request, to make
>> >>>> >> > flexmojos
>> >>>> >> > understand no scope as external for SWC project and as merged
>> >>>> >> > for
>> >>>> >> > SWF
>> >>>> >> > projects.  So that is kinda expected.  Although flexmojos 4 has
>> >>>> >> > all
>> >>>> >> > features
>> >>>> >> > present on flexmojos 3 it is not a drop in replacement, since
>> >>>> >> > some
>> >>>> >> > configurations vanished, others where create, some now has a
>> >>>> >> > better
>> >>>> >> > name.  I
>> >>>> >> > use this major release period to introduce this compatibility
>> >>>> >> > breaker
>> >>>> >> > changes.
>> >>>> >> >
>> >>>> >> > To summarize, what you are seems is the expected behavior for
>> >>>> >> > flexmojos
>> >>>> >> > 4.
>> >>>> >> > If you really wanna merge the other SWCs into yours (which in my
>> >>>> >> > opinion
>> >>>> >> > is
>> >>>> >> > a really bad practice) set the scope to merge and it will take
>> >>>> >> > care
>> >>>> >> > of
>> >>>> >> > it.
>> >>>> >> >
>> >>>> >> > VELO
>> >>>> >> >
>> >>>> >> > On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 1:23 PM, Mischa Williamson
>> >>>> >> > <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>>> >> >>
>> >>>> >> >> Ok, it may not tamper with the dependency tree, but the 4.x
>> >>>> >> >> flexmojos
>> >>>> >> >> release/snapshots seem to be to be broken badly.
>> >>>> >> >>
>> >>>> >> >> Try this, get the source tree:
>> >>>> >> >>
>> >>>> >> >> http://github.com/freeformsystems/as3-core
>> >>>> >> >>
>> >>>> >> >> I'm testing with the flash/io/loaders module. When I compile
>> >>>> >> >> with
>> >>>> >> >> Flexmojos 3.6.1 the created swc is about 115K. When I change
>> >>>> >> >> the
>> >>>> >> >> version (in the top-level POM) to 4.0-SNAPSHOT and re-install
>> >>>> >> >> the
>> >>>> >> >> created swc is 53KB and the config file has loads of
>> >>>> >> >> external-library-path declarations:
>> >>>> >> >>
>> >>>> >> >>      <external-library-path>
>> >>>> >> >>
>> >>>> >> >>
>> >>>> >> >>
>> >>>> >> >>
>> >>>> >> >> <path-element>/Users/williamsonm/.m2/repository/com/ffsys/core/1.1-SNAPSHOT/core-1.1-SNAPSHOT.swc</path-element>
>> >>>> >> >>      </external-library-path>
>> >>>> >> >>
>> >>>> >> >> When I run dependency:tree all dependencies are marked as
>> >>>> >> >> "compile"
>> >>>> >> >> -
>> >>>> >> >> so why is flexmojos flagging all those dependencies as
>> >>>> >> >> external-library-path?
>> >>>> >> >>
>> >>>> >> >> Velo, I'd really appreciate it if you can take a look at this
>> >>>> >> >> as
>> >>>> >> >> I'm
>> >>>> >> >> really keen to migrate to 4.x for existing projects and a new
>> >>>> >> >> project
>> >>>> >> >> I'm starting.
>> >>>> >> >>
>> >>>> >> >> Let me know what you think.
>> >>>> >> >>
>> >>>> >> >> Cheers,
>> >>>> >> >>
>> >>>> >> >> mischa.
>> >>>> >> >>
>> >>>> >> >> On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 3:54 PM, Marvin Froeder
>> >>>> >> >> <[email protected]>
>> >>>> >> >> wrote:
>> >>>> >> >> >
>> >>>> >> >> >
>> >>>> >> >> > On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 11:42 AM, Mischa Williamson
>> >>>> >> >> > <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>>> >> >> >>
>> >>>> >> >> >> I've tried with 4.0-SNAPSHOT and am seeing the same
>> >>>> >> >> >> behaviour.
>> >>>> >> >> >>
>> >>>> >> >> >> There are definitely no internal scope dependencies in the
>> >>>> >> >> >> entire
>> >>>> >> >> >> POM.
>> >>>> >> >> >> A search for <scope>internal</scope> in the project finds
>> >>>> >> >> >> nothing.
>> >>>> >> >> >>
>> >>>> >> >> >> I know that the main dependency it does declare:
>> >>>> >> >> >>
>> >>>> >> >> >>                <dependency>
>> >>>> >> >> >>                        <groupId>com.ffsys</groupId>
>> >>>> >> >> >>                        <artifactId>swat</artifactId>
>> >>>> >> >> >>
>> >>>> >> >> >>  <version>${ffsys.lib.version}</version>
>> >>>> >> >> >>                        <type>swc</type>
>> >>>> >> >> >>                </dependency>
>> >>>> >> >> >>
>> >>>> >> >> >> Has a dependency tree that includes internal scope but I've
>> >>>> >> >> >> no
>> >>>> >> >> >> idea
>> >>>> >> >> >> why those are being included when compiling my current
>> >>>> >> >> >> application.
>> >>>> >> >> >>
>> >>>> >> >> >> The internal scope should not have any inheritance right?
>> >>>> >> >> >
>> >>>> >> >> > Flexmojos does not tamper with your dependency tree.
>> >>>> >> >> >
>> >>>> >> >> >>
>> >>>> >> >> >> I've filed a JIRA for the hex issue:
>> >>>> >> >> >>
>> >>>> >> >> >> https://issues.sonatype.org/browse/FLEXMOJOS-355
>> >>>> >> >> >>
>> >>>> >> >> >> My point about the defaultSize change was just a heads up as
>> >>>> >> >> >> it
>> >>>> >> >> >> took
>> >>>> >> >> >> me a little while to figure out the default size arguments
>> >>>> >> >> >> were
>> >>>> >> >> >> not
>> >>>> >> >> >> being sent to the compiler so the size of my movie was wrong
>> >>>> >> >> >> and
>> >>>> >> >> >> everything was broken when embedded within an HTML page.
>> >>>> >> >> >> Just a
>> >>>> >> >> >> FYI.
>> >>>> >> >> >>
>> >>>> >> >> >> Cheers,
>> >>>> >> >> >>
>> >>>> >> >> >> mischa.
>> >>>> >> >> >>
>> >>>> >> >> >> On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 3:01 PM, Marvin Froeder
>> >>>> >> >> >> <[email protected]>
>> >>>> >> >> >> wrote:
>> >>>> >> >> >> >
>> >>>> >> >> >> >
>> >>>> >> >> >> > On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 10:39 AM, Mischa Williamson
>> >>>> >> >> >> > <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>>> >> >> >> >>
>> >>>> >> >> >> >> I'm still trying to get my multi-module project upgraded
>> >>>> >> >> >> >> to
>> >>>> >> >> >> >> 4.0-alpha-5 and seem to be slowly working my way through
>> >>>> >> >> >> >> it
>> >>>> >> >> >> >> by
>> >>>> >> >> >> >> recreating from scratch the modules and re-integrating.
>> >>>> >> >> >> >
>> >>>> >> >> >> > Try latest snapshot, I do recall on a bug scope related...
>> >>>> >> >> >> > but
>> >>>> >> >> >> > I
>> >>>> >> >> >> > think
>> >>>> >> >> >> > it
>> >>>> >> >> >> > was related to external scope, anyway, give it a shot.
>> >>>> >> >> >> >
>> >>>> >> >> >> >>
>> >>>> >> >> >> >> Something I've noticed is that now dependencies with
>> >>>> >> >> >> >> scope
>> >>>> >> >> >> >> "internal"
>> >>>> >> >> >> >> seem to be picked up as part of the compile through some
>> >>>> >> >> >> >> sort
>> >>>> >> >> >> >> of
>> >>>> >> >> >> >> inheritance look up.
>> >>>> >> >> >> >>
>> >>>> >> >> >> >> I'm not sure whether this is a Maven or Flexmojos
>> >>>> >> >> >> >> problem. I
>> >>>> >> >> >> >> noticed
>> >>>> >> >> >> >> my swf was too big and checked the compiler config file,
>> >>>> >> >> >> >> I'm
>> >>>> >> >> >> >> seeing
>> >>>> >> >> >> >> ***lot's*** of:
>> >>>> >> >> >> >>
>> >>>> >> >> >> >>      <include-libraries>
>> >>>> >> >> >> >>
>> >>>> >> >> >> >>
>> >>>> >> >> >> >>
>> >>>> >> >> >> >>
>> >>>> >> >> >> >>
>> >>>> >> >> >> >>
>> >>>> >> >> >> >> <library>/Users/williamsonm/.m2/repository/com/ffsys/utils/css/1.1-SNAPSHOT/css-1.1-SNAPSHOT.swc</library>
>> >>>> >> >> >> >>      </include-libraries>
>> >>>> >> >> >> >>
>> >>>> >> >> >> >> But there are no dependencies declared with an internal
>> >>>> >> >> >> >> scope
>> >>>> >> >> >> >> in
>> >>>> >> >> >> >> the
>> >>>> >> >> >> >> pom that is building this swf *and* there are no internal
>> >>>> >> >> >> >> scope
>> >>>> >> >> >> >> dependencies in the entire project. Any ideas?
>> >>>> >> >> >> >
>> >>>> >> >> >> > It can either be a flexmojos bug (which stills need to be
>> >>>> >> >> >> > proven)
>> >>>> >> >> >> > or
>> >>>> >> >> >> > there
>> >>>> >> >> >> > is an internal scope anywhere (most likely).
>> >>>> >> >> >> >
>> >>>> >> >> >> >>
>> >>>> >> >> >> >> The internal scope is used by some of the dependencies
>> >>>> >> >> >> >> for
>> >>>> >> >> >> >> the
>> >>>> >> >> >> >> project
>> >>>> >> >> >> >> (that are in a separate project/repository).
>> >>>> >> >> >> >>
>> >>>> >> >> >> >> Incidentally, a couple more things I've noticed,
>> >>>> >> >> >> >> defaultBackgroundColor no longer seems to accept a
>> >>>> >> >> >> >> hexadecimal
>> >>>> >> >> >> >> value.
>> >>>> >> >> >> >> Is this the case? I've tried FFFFFF, #FFFFFF and 0xFFFFFF
>> >>>> >> >> >> >> and
>> >>>> >> >> >> >> the
>> >>>> >> >> >> >> only
>> >>>> >> >> >> >> thing that seems to work is specifying the decimal value.
>> >>>> >> >> >> >
>> >>>> >> >> >> > Possible a bug.... file a jira for it.
>> >>>> >> >> >> >
>> >>>> >> >> >> >>
>> >>>> >> >> >> >> The defaultSizeWidth and defaultSizeHeight configuration
>> >>>> >> >> >> >> properties
>> >>>> >> >> >> >> now need to be declared as defaultSize with child
>> >>>> >> >> >> >> width/height
>> >>>> >> >> >> >> elements.
>> >>>> >> >> >> >
>> >>>> >> >> >> > Not sure what is your point here....
>> >>>> >> >> >> >
>> >>>> >> >> >> >>
>> >>>> >> >> >> >> Thanks for any help.
>> >>>> >> >> >> >>
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