By the, I was not referring specifically to solving the problem of 4.5.0.17689, but to take the chance to try working closely with Adobe to see if it's possible to get an official Maven adoption on the SDK.

João Saleiro

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Subject:        Re: [flex-mojos] Re: Flex SDK 4.5.0.17689
Date:   Wed, 10 Nov 2010 20:54:52 +0000
From:   João Saleiro <[email protected]>
Organization:   Webfuel.pt
To:     [email protected]




Marvin, from what I know, Adobe is aware of the importance of Maven, and I believe it's in their plans to address maven properly.

I know you don't have any direct gain supporting flex-mojos, but you are right now maybe the most important player on the proper adoption of Maven for Flex. I advise you to keep close contacts with Deepa (she's the right person right now to discuss the subject, and she's very balanced), and if possible tell her *exactly* what Adobe needs to do on the short term and on the long term. I assure you they will listen and take you in consideration. I cannot assure they will change their roadmap right now, but there's a strong possibility that I wouldn't waste. So, in your spare time, if you can help Adobe helping themselves, you will be helping all of us - and yourself ;).

IMHO, of course. :)

Thank you for your great work,

João Saleiro


On 10-11-2010 20:07, Marvin Froeder wrote:
Well, Deepa, from adobe, contacted me last night, wanna know why can't I overlay flex SDK and replubish... mainly: Idea 2, republish, well, republishing released artifacts cause problems. This is a maven thing. Idea 1, nice, but then how to get flexSDK bundle compatible to flexmojos? What about RSLs, doesn't seem a good way to go.

Both 1 and 2 will give me more work then it should, and as you said the situation is already depressing. I will enjoy summer over south hemisphere, after that I will put my mind on the issue at hand.

Hopefully people will change Adobe mind by the time I finish my free time vacation.


VELO

On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 3:17 PM, Rupert Key <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Yep, I think I speak for the community when I say we:
     - empathize with you and the depressing situation,
     - very much appreciate your doing all of this work (code, admin
    and support),
     - appreciate the irony that your free-to-them work is making
    their products used more!
     - all agree it'd help if Adobe hosted a Maven repo.

    Hope your employer recognizes!  Please don't give up the good fight!

    So, 'nuff of the empathy ;-)  What were your thoughts on my other
    suggestions?

    Thanks, R.


    On 10/11/2010 13:41, Marvin Froeder wrote:
    I'm honestly evaluating Idea 3:
    Let adobe publish flex SDK....  I'm quite full of dealing with that.

    On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 11:10 AM, Rupert Key
    <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        Thanks for taking the time to respond, Scott!

        Velo, could a kludge suffice until Adobe publish?

        Idea 1:
        Publish with an interim version number after 17689 to allow
        Maven to separate it.
        Problem:  I guess that'd screw the generated RSL paths though
        (if one's using
        the version info)?

        Idea 2:
        Re-publish.
        Problem: Am I correct in thinking re-publishing with the fix
        isn't advisable in
        a public repo? (hence your question to Scott)
        Last clarifying question: we're OK doing it in our private
        repos though if we
        accept the [minimal] risk, right? (not sure I know what risks
        might be but...!)

        Idea n?

        Sorry [as always] for the dumb questions.  Just looking to
        move things forwards
        (publicly and internally)
        Thanks, R.

        On 08/11/2010 19:18, Scott Castle wrote:
        > Hi Flex Mojos list,
        > The AIR team is in the process of fixing the issue with
        Maven and ADT
        > now.  We will be updating the AIR 2.5 SDK with a repackaged
        adt.jar
        > that no longer includes the unnecessary jar files from smali/
        > backsmali.  We currently plan to publish this update to the
        web on
        > 11/18/2010.
        >
        > Flex SDK users should be able to update their existing Flex
        SDK by
        > overlaying the new AIR 2.5.2 SDK over the shipping version.
        >
        > Regards,
        > - Scott Castle
        >
        > On Nov 7, 6:53 pm, Marvin Froeder <[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
        >> I honestly don't expected changes any time soon.  Since
        this is a released
        >> product, but who knows.....
        >>
        >> I hope to be proven wrong, but one week later I still
        right....
        >>
        >>
        >>
        >> On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 12:33 AM, Rupert Key
        <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
        >>> Hi, Scott
        >>> May I echo Muji's public thanks for your and Adobe's
        attention to this (and
        >>> to
        >>> Joseph for fixing the integrated JAR quickly, too!).  May
        I ask whether
        >>> there's
        >>> any newer update than that posted in the bug, please?
         Especially with
        >>> Android
        >>> capabilities!
        >>> Thanks, Rupert.
        >>> On 31/10/2010 18:12, Scott Castle wrote:
        >>>> Hi folks,
        >>>> I am a product manager with the AIR team at Adobe.  This
        issue has
        >>>> been brought to our attention, and our understanding is
        that it's
        >>>> caused by the inadvertent inclusion of the
        jflex-maven-plugin jars in
        >>>> smali/backsmali.  We're taking steps to correct this
        ASAP in the AIR
        >>>> SDK, which should resolve the issue identified with the
        Flex SDK.
        >>>> Regards,
        >>>> - Scott
        >>>> On Oct 25, 6:35 pm, Marvin Froeder <[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
        >>>>> Before anyone asks, flexmojos do not work with this SDK
        release.
        >>>>> For some reason adobe decided to embed lots of GPL
        bytecode into
        >>> ADT.jar,
        >>>>> which does break maven classloading.
        >>>>> When adobe fixes that people can hope to get flexmojos
        working with this
        >>> new
        >>>>> flex SDK.
        >>>>> Sorry folks, completely out of my hand.
        >>>>> VELO
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