We have different experiences with Flex.

#1 I agree.  It's not a whole lot different than annoying splash pages.

#2: 125K / 244K is the initial load of the application.  After that, you 
are just passing data back and forth.  With a normal web app, you're 
passing "the app" back and forth each time.  I've heard that many Flex apps 
use less bandwidth overall.  Is 244K really too much for a modem user when 
they are no subsequent loads of anything except data?  ( I guess only you 
can decide, depending on your situation )

#3 You're right; I agree. in some situations Flash 9 is going to be 
hindrance, on others it won't matter.

#4: You can create components in Flex.  Even with my limited experience, I 
can't fathom creating a Flex app as a single component.  What can't you do 
in Flex that you would be able to do in Flash?

At 12:17 PM 7/10/2006, you wrote:
>On 7/9/06, Douglas Knudsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > so in Ajax world, what is the perfered defacto method of formatting
> > data to use in Ajax code?  Is there one so that any member of my team
> > of developers can quickly modify the code?
>
> From what I've seen, there is no de facto method, but then again,
>there's not a downside to that for me either.  Depending on what my
>functions need to do, I'll return whatever data format fits that best.
>  90% of the time I use JSON just because there's no need to parse the
>data and it's a relatively small package.
>
>
> >
> > One point I'd add is dev speed and app size.  For a large app that has
> > drag+drop, charting, rich forms, messaging, etc Flex seems to have
> > Ajax beat in dev time.  Add to this you really don't need to worry
> > about browser versions that much.
>
>I've been playing around with Flex the past couple of days, I've even
>purchased Flex Builder to use in an upcoming project.  I really do
>like it, but I still see some faults.
>
>#1 - The loading screen.  When someone goes to a web page, they don't
>want the page to load up just to post another message saying "Loading
>xx%"
>
>#2 - File size.  Unless I'm doing something wrong, the file sizes on
>just the lesson projects are relatively huge.  125K for the smallest
>and 244K for the largest.  This cuts out dialup people.  My deployment
>plans are almost exclusively intranet.
>
>#3 - Flash Player 9.0 required.  Yes, I know, Flash is installed on
>97% of all computers.  But not Flash 9.0.  Also, as with our
>organization, we're starting to lock down users' computers even more
>so that Flash isn't upgradeable by anyone other than a "power user" or
>higher.
>
>#4 - Components.  Flex ships with some really neat components, but
>I've already noticed some things that I'd like to have.  With
>javascript/AJAX, typically someone has already figured out the need
>and more than likely it's open sourced.  With Flex, I'm probably going
>to have to program something with the timeline.  Uggh!
>
>--
>There more than one answer to these questions pointing me in a crooked line.
>And the less I seek my source for some definitive, the closer I am to fine.
>
>

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