I will say (possibly irrelevantly) that I have seen xerces-based 
applications fail in the past when crimson.jar was placed in the 
CLASSPATH.  I don't think they play nice together.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi Peter,
>  
> I checked the web.xml and the AMFGatewayServlet is loaded by a 
> BootstrapServlet.
>  
> Regarding sending XML over RemoteObject: No, we are not directly sending 
> XML over the RemoteObject. We are using the RemoteObject to just call 
> java methods on the app server. My concern was that I didn't know what 
> was happening under the hood when the RemoteObject service calls are 
> invoked & if crimson.jar could impact that.
>  
> thanks,
>  
> Laura
>  
> 
>     -------------- Original message --------------
>     In Flex 1.0 I think the AMF Gateway and the Flex MXML compiler were
>     both behind a bootstrap classloader (you can tell from the servlet
>     mapping in /WEB-INF/web.xml to see if the AMFGatewayServlet is
>     actually loaded by a BootstrapServlet).
>      
>     In Flex 1.5 the AMF Gateway was removed from the bootstrap
>     classloader due to other classloader reasons.
>      
>     Are you sending XML at all over RemoteObject?
>      
>      
>      
> 
>     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>     *From:* [email protected]
>     [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of
>     [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>     *Sent:* Wednesday, May 04, 2005 4:46 PM
>     *To:* [email protected]
>     *Subject:* RE: [flexcoders] crimson.jar & flex runtime
> 
>      
>     Hi Peter,
>      
>     This app is built on Flex 1.0 (not sure if that makes a difference
>     for this topic).
>      
>     I have not seen any issues in the testing that i have done so far
>     (which included remote object calls). I am just wondering if it's
>     possible to run into the same issues that I saw w/ mxml compilation.
>     Basically the flex app runs in the same web app as a commerce
>     server. The commerce server now requires the crimson.jar lib. I'm
>     just looking to verify whether or not that will cause problems w/
>     the flex app during runtime.
>      
>     thanks,
>      
>     Laura
>      
> 
>         -------------- Original message --------------
>         The Flex 1.5 AMF gateway reads its own configuration file using
>         SAX during servlet initialization and DOM for
>         deserializing/serializing ActionScript XML objects sent via AMF.
>         Are you seeing issues with just the gateway deployed or are you
>         just wondering whether it's theoretically possible to run into
>         the same issues as with mxml compilation?
> 
>         
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>         *From:* [email protected]
>         [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of
>         [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>         *Sent:* Wednesday, May 04, 2005 3:29 PM
>         *To:* [email protected]
>         *Subject:* RE: [flexcoders] crimson.jar & flex runtime
> 
>          
>         Hi,
>          
>         This helps a lot, thank you.
>          
>         I do have an additional question. Our swf does make data service
>         calls back to the server using AMF. Is there any possibility
>         that the AMF gateway relies on an XML parser which could be in
>         conflict w/ crimson.jar?
>          
>         thanks, Laura
>          
> 
>             -------------- Original message --------------
>             Hi,
>              
>             Flex runtime means Macromedia Flash Player, which is totally
>             client side. As you said, you have precompiled  swfs on
>             server, I am sure there won't be any conflict by keeping
>             crimson.jar. Once swf is delivered to client, it is run on
>             client side(in Macromedia Flash Player). Only data service
>             calls are made between client and server.
>              
>             Flex compiler and Flex runtime(Macromedia Flash Player) are
>             two different isolated entitity.
>              
>             Hope that helps
>              
>             -abdul
>              
> 
>             
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>             *From:* [email protected]
>             [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>             *Sent:* Wednesday, May 04, 2005 7:16 PM
>             *To:* [email protected]; [email protected]
>             *Cc:* Jonathan Bezuidenhout
>             *Subject:* Re: [flexcoders] crimson.jar & flex runtime
> 
>              
>             Hi,
>              
>             Thanks for the reply -
>              
>             It sounds like the conflict you experienced occurs during
>             compile time, when compiling the mxml.
>              
>             Our app is installed as a precompiled swf (no mxml pages are
>             installed with the application), so I am wondering if any of
>             the flex runtime code could also be in conflict w/ the
>             crimson.jar, or if it is just isolated to the compiler.
>              
> 
>                 -------------- Original message --------------
>                 I am sure it can - we just had the same problem with
>                 batik.jar.
> 
>                 In fact, to see weirdness being even weirder, copy the
>                 exact batik jar
>                 files from the flex/jars into your regular WEB-INF/jars
>                 - you would
>                 think duplicate but OK - unfortunately Flex does not
>                 like that.  As
>                 soon as you access mxml pages that need to be
>                 recompiled, it gives
>                 weird error messages like being unable to find
>                 global.css etc.
> 
>                 Jonathan
> 
>                 On 5/4/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>                 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>                  > 
>                  > Hi,
>                  >  
>                  > Our flex application shares it's web app with another
>                 application that
>                  > requires crimson.jar in the WEB-INF/lib directory. I
>                 found that this creates
>                  > a conflict for the parser required for the mxmlc
>                 compiler & the compiler
>                  > fails. If I exclude crimson.jar from the classpath
>                 during compile time, I am
>                  > able to compile the swf.
>                  >  
>                  > My question is, does anyone know if having
>                 crimson.jar live in the flex web
>                  > app could create other conflicts with flex during
>                 runtime? I am able to run
>                  > the application with no problems that I can see, but
>                 am not sure what is
>                  > going on under the hood and if there are other
>                 gotchas that I should be
>                  > aware of.
>                  >  
>                  > thanks in advance for your help,
>                  >  
>                  > Laura
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