If it's just a question of pricing, it's definitely less expensive to buy a separate JRun license - $899 - than to upgrade from CFMX Standard to CFMX Enterprise, which lists at $5,999. The limitation is that you won't be able to wrap Flex and CFMX into a single server - the best you'll be able to do is to have them run side-by- side using different ports.
As to the qualitative differences between JRun and Tomcat, it depends on what you're doing with Flex. If the goal is to use Flex to communicate with Java classes as remote objects, I'd rather host Flex within JRun than Tomcat, if only for the more powerful administrative interface. But if you're limiting yourself to communicating with ColdFusion CFC's through Flash Remoting, the Flex server will have minimal work to do, and JRun might be overkill. Either way, without CFMX Enterprise, you'll have to run a separate J2EE server, as with CFMX Standard you can't separate CF from its integrated JRun. As to why Macromedia includes Flex with CF Ent but not Flex, the 2 product management teams would be the only ones qualified to comment. And all that having been said, definitely talk to your Macromedia sales rep as Matt recommended - who knows what miracles they can accomplish? David Gassner Schooner Technical Media --- In [email protected], Scott Barnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For now we are going to use TomCat to tide us over until we figure > things out... you'd think for the bucks we paid, JRUN full license > would of been thrown in ;) hehe. > > > > On 5/12/05, Matt Chotin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Er, I don't think the JRun license is a full license with Flex, it's just a > > trial license. > > > > > > > > Scott, I'd just talk to your sales rep and see what makes sense for your > > needs. I have no idea how the pricing works on JRun vs. CF Enterprise. > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > > Behalf Of Scott Barnes > > Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 9:32 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [flexcoders] FLEX and CF7.. > > > > > > > > well the actual legal (Commercial) FLEX license is being sent > > (currently FEDEX) but i have the serial, and simply used the > > downloadable version to install. > > > > that being said, once i provide the serial it doesn't ask how i want > > it installed, but simply installs the WAR? > > > > am i missing something from this equation? > > > > On 5/12/05, Cliff Meyers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > If you purchase a Flex license it comes with a full license of JRun. > > > When you run the Flex installer you can either have it create a .war > > > file to deploy to an existing J2EE server, or choose to install JRun4 > > > on your server and then put Flex on top of it. The same is true of > > > ColdFusion MX7: if you spring for an Enterprise license you can > > > install CF with a full version of JRun4, or as a .war to deploy to any > > > other J2EE server. You could also install CFMX7 in Standalone mode, > > > but IMHO this would be waste since you'd be sacrificing the full J2EE > > > capability (Servlets, JSPs, EJBs, etc) as well as some other features > > > in CFMX7 Enterprise Edition. If you want to deploy CFMX7 and Flex on > > > top of the same J2EE server (be it the "free" JRun you get with the > > > CF/Flex licenses or any other J2EE server) you're still going to need > > > the CFMX7 Enterprise edition. > > > > > > If you are looking for the most cost-effective route, you can do the > > following: > > > > > > (1) Buy a Flex license and install it on a box with the full version > > > > > of JRun that's included, > > > (2) Buy a CFMX7 Standard license and install it on a different box in > > > Standalone mode > > > > > > You might also be able to run them side by side on the same box, but > > > usually I think MM will discourage that behavior since having two JRun > > > servers on the same box will probably cause issues. Port conflicts > > > immediately jump to mind since different parts of the J2EE machinery > > > will probably try to bind to the same default ports, although you > > > could probaby adjust the .xml config files to resolve this. However > > > you're also going to add a lot more overhead to your hardware by > > > running two separate J2EE servers on the same box. If your company is > > > willing to spring for the hefty price tag of Flex, is the difference > > > between CFMX7 Standard and Enterprise really that significant? > > > > > > HTH, > > > > > > Cliff > > > > > > > > > On 5/11/05, Scott Barnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > In order to install FLEX you need an existing Java Application Server, > > > > now we own CF7 Standard not Enterprise. > > > > > > > > 1) Would it be more cost effective to buy JRUN 4 (standalone) and > > > > deploy CF7/FLEX war files to JRUN4 > > > > > > > > 2) Buy / Updared CF7 Standard to Enterpise and deploy FLEX via this > > route. > > > > > > > > I'm not really up to speed on whats what in terms of Java Application > > > > Server(s) but need to have a setup where i can hopefully have FLEX/CF > > > > running under the one port (was going to use a CFIMPORT capability but > > > > CF7 Standard has a software license restriction on JSP apparently). > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Regards, > > > > Scott Barnes > > > > http://www.mossyblog.com > > > > http://www.flexcoder.com (Coming Soon) > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Regards, > > Scott Barnes > > http://www.mossyblog.com > > http://www.flexcoder.com (Coming Soon) > > > > > > ________________________________ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > To visit your group on the web, go to: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > -- > Regards, > Scott Barnes > http://www.mossyblog.com > http://www.flexcoder.com (Coming Soon) Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
