JRun has two options for servers, one runs the server as a Windows Service, the other runs it as a normal application. This is an option you get on install, for the default server, and also when you create a new server.
The docs recommend service-based servers for development and application-based servers for development. You start/stop service-based servers using the Windows service manager mmc snap-in, and you start/stop application-based servers using the Jrun admin console. You can, if you wish, start the app-based server from a shortcut or command window. One benefit of this is debugging information in the command monitor window. Of course, the shortcut can be put in the startup folder to start after a reboot. Again, this is primarily for development. My main point, is do not use the JRun admin console to start/stop Windows service-based servers. Tracy -----Original Message----- From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Anderson Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 12:55 PM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Massive JRun4 Problems - and your advice for resources... Now when you say "run as an application", does that mean you must launch it using a shortcut, after logging into the Console (or remote session)? If so, that really isn't an acceptable solution - as most Servers and Services, are typically run "without a face" - meaning no monitor. Then you administer the services running on the server, using Admin Front-ends. Also, if the server has to be rebooted remotely, the JRun4 server will be down until you manually launch it. Is this type of setup, what you are referring to? Just curious... Mike -----Original Message----- From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tracy Spratt Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 11:30 AM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Massive JRun4 Problems - and your advice for resources... You may already know this, but if you are running the JRun server as a service, do NOT attempt to start or stop it with the Admin console. When I installed the first time, and accepted the defaults, and said yes to run as a service, I had problems. Normally, stopping and starting a server is a good thing, but in this case it just made matters worse. This is in the JRun docs, but is not "intuitive". I then created a new Jrun server to run as an application, and have had no problems since. Tracy -----Original Message----- From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Anderson Sent: Monday, May 30, 2005 11:10 PM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: [flexcoders] Massive JRun4 Problems - and your advice for resources... Hello All, I know JRun4 questions are slightly off-topic, but my questions are directly related to Flex, as without a functioning JRun4 server, the Flex 1.5 Server is pretty much useless. As much as Macromedia makes impressive products, I am completely blown away as to crappy reliability of fresh JRun4 installs. I used the install program directly off my DevNet Subscription CD, AND I also tried downloading it from my Subscriptions page - in hopes of maybe getting a slightly newer or older version. No matter which darn server I install it on - Windows 2003 Standard, Windows 2003 Web Edition, Windows 2000 Server, or Windows XP - I get errors EVERY stinking time, when the service tries to start. The Admin Service starts fine 100% of the time, BUT the Default Server that is created, generates TONS of errors upon startup. After an install, I even apply the latest Service Pack from MM, in hopes of correcting errors. Things improve slightly (less errors upon initialization) but STILL, the Default Server refuses to start AND any new server I try to create, refuses to start. And as always, the error messages are completely useless. I've seen KB Articles regarding the JVM/JDK being version 1.5 - and issues regarding that. I applied all possible patches, and performed all suggestions from the Help Articles, and STILL nothing... I am so TERRIBLY frustrated, and wasted SO much stinking time on this, that it just obliterated my productivity for the last couple weeks. With all of us being developers, we all know that our time (especially billable time) is worth GOLD. I am almost tempted to send MM a bill for all my wasted time. I've never been through this much crap with Microsoft products (which is probably why I still use .NET exclusively for Server Side solutions (as I need reliability and server solutions that actually install without a hitch and also *work* 100% of the time). Please forgive me for the ranting, but I've gotten to the point (due to an accumulation over the years of pulling all-nighters because of buggy server software and development tools) where I just want to throw MM products out the window and kiss it all goodbye. Of course, I hang on to the hopes of an eventually perfected/mature development environment, comprised of the seamless integration of IDE tools & Server components, so I can FINALLY deliver something truly wonderful to my clients. I still believe in the end, that MM solutions, will be the means to achieving that goal - but at what cost??? Since so many on this list, have probably been through JRun4 woes before (due to Flex Server and/or ColdFusion), that possibly somebody could contact me off-list or point me in the right direction for quality information, regarding JRun4 and all it's funky quirks. I admit, I have not yet directly contacted MM - so hopefully, they will be willing to talk to me since I am a fully paid-up DevNet Subscriber. BUT if I have to fork out cash for premium service, simply to get their server product to simply *install* properly, I will be really peeved. Thanks everybody for listening, and as always, I am truly grateful for all your help. Humbly, Mike :) Yahoo! 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