Abdul: Dont get me wrong...I do understand the '1 flashClient-to- FCS
- to- all-other-FlashClients' route that you had mentioned. But, with
due respect, this is not something that a large enterprise can hang
it's hat on ! Thanks again - Sanjay


--- In [email protected], "Abdul Qabiz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> You can push the data to FCS using Flex/flash client. I think, that
can even be automated. You have a machine which fetches the data,
launches a flash application which connects and sends the data to FCS
on another machine..
> 
> 
> As said earlier, either Flash client or FCS can push data to a FCS.
There is no other way as of now...
> 
> I think, what you trying to do can be achieved easily. If you read
previous threads and think..
> 
> 
> 
> -abdul
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of sanjayd
> Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 6:10 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [flexcoders] Re: Flex, Remoting and more
> 
> Abdul: Thanks for your response. However, I am pretty disheartened by
> the options available ! FCS seems to offer the only 'secure' route to
> distribute realtime data to FLEX clients, but, there is no robust way
> to PUSH the data to FCS !! FCS has to come up with a better mechanism
> to be a realtime data subscriber, if it hopes to be a player in the
> enterprise market (ie. bloomberg, reuters data distribution area, this
> is what most financial clients want). FLEX is attempting to be a
> player in this area, but FCS does not seem to cut it !! Am I missing
> something ?
> 
> Sanjay
> 
> --- In [email protected], "Abdul Qabiz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I think, I suggested one way, not sure how feasible it is for you...
> > 
> > Flash_Client_1 ----> FCS <----> Flash_Client_2
> > 
> > 
> > Flash_Client_1 could push data to FCS. In turn, FCS takes relevant
> action and broadcast message/data to other Flash_Clients...
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -abdul
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of sanjayd
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 12:25 AM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: [flexcoders] Re: Flex, Remoting and more
> > 
> > Sorry, I mossed the other (latter) postings on this thread.
> > So, I guess, we cannot use xmlSocket to connect FCS to a
> > socketServer...so, the question is: what are the options available to
> > PUSH data to FCS from non-Flash dataSources, for example: a market
> > data feed from reuters ?
> > 
> > Sanjay
> > 
> > --- In [email protected], "sanjayd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > I am not sure, if this answers my question: can FCS connect to an
> > > external socketServer using xmlSocket ?
> > > 
> > > --- In [email protected], "Abdul Qabiz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> > > > Either Flash clients can connect to FCS or FCS can connect to a
> > > Flash Remoting Gateway..
> > > > 
> > > > -abdul
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: [email protected]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > On Behalf Of sanjayd
> > > > Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 7:15 PM
> > > > To: [email protected]
> > > > Subject: [flexcoders] Re: Flex, Remoting and more
> > > > 
> > > > I was under the impression that ActionScript code running
inside FCS
> > > > can connect to an external socketServer using XMLSocket ?
> > > > 
> > > > Sanjay
> > > > 
> > > > --- In [email protected], "Abdul Qabiz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > > 
> > > > > FCS can only connect to any Flash Remoting gateway or Flash
> Player.
> > > > If FCS connects to Flash Remoting gateway, it would be
asynchronous
> > > > process. It would lead to polling kind of scenario, where FCS
would
> > > > poll(on regular intervals) the Remoting Gateway(.Net or J2ee), in
> > > > return gets the data. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > -abdul
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > On Behalf Of Alberto Albericio Salvador
> > > > > Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 5:19 PM
> > > > > To: [email protected]
> > > > > Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Flex, Remoting and more
> > > > > 
> > > > > Hi Abdul,
> > > > > 
> > > > > Is it possible from C# or any other language to connect to this
> > > FCS in 
> > > > > order to "give orders" to all Flex clients connected to it?
> > > > > 
> > > > > A
> > > > > 
> > > > > Abdul Qabiz escribió:
> > > > > 
> > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > Some random ideas...
> > > > > > I am not sure, but your call center server can run a Flash
> > > > application 
> > > > > > that is connected to FCS server persistently. Or you can
run a 
> > > > > > XMLSocket server on call center server and FCS machine runs a
> > flash 
> > > > > > application which is connected to Call Center server as
well as
> > > local 
> > > > > > FCS, this flash application works as bridge between two...
> > > > > > -abdul
> > > > > >
> > > >
> >
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> > > > > > *From:* [email protected]
> > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > > > > > *On Behalf Of *Rick Bullotta
> > > > > > *Sent:* Monday, June 27, 2005 4:33 PM
> > > > > > *To:* [email protected]
> > > > > > *Subject:* RE: [flexcoders] Flex, Remoting and more
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The danger of persistent connections is one of
> > > scaleability...and of 
> > > > > > trying to manage a reliable protocol across those
> connections (as 
> > > > > > opposed to the relative simplicity of a request/response
> > protocol).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > A hybrid that we've used is a server-based "collector"
> > > (listener) and 
> > > > > > clients that "ping" (a euphemism for lightweight polling) to
> > see if 
> > > > > > there's something for them to do.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The other advantage of polling is "pacing" - you can
manage the
> > > rate 
> > > > > > at which events/messages get exchanged even when "bursts" of
> > > > events occur.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
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> > > > > > *From:* [email protected]
> > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > > > > > *On Behalf Of *Alberto Albericio Salvador
> > > > > > *Sent:* Monday, June 27, 2005 6:57 AM
> > > > > > *To:* [email protected]
> > > > > > *Subject:* [flexcoders] Flex, Remoting and more
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi all,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I've been reading about "connecting" flex client applications
> > using
> > > > > > Flash Communication Server(FCS) and shared objects. Thats
> seems to
> > > > cover
> > > > > > the needs for developing chat-like applications...
> > > > > > Now, imagine I have an external "Notification server" (yukon
> > > > > > notification server, or whatever) And I want FCS to listen
> > > > > > *persistently* to this server. With FCS and Remoting I know
> how to
> > > > POLL
> > > > > > a database "1 time or every 10 seconds" and format that answer
> > > to feed
> > > > > > the FCS but HOW can I create a persistent link to a
notification
> > > > > > server,socket server or similar, get the data this server is
> > > pushing,
> > > > > > format this data and pass it to the FCS?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So basically, I want to know how to replace POLLING with
> > PERSISTENT
> > > > > > LISTENING.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Example application: A Flex application that shows the
queue of
> > > a call
> > > > > > center. When a new call arrives, it is shown in every client
> > > > running the
> > > > > > application. And it is the call center notification server
that
> > > tells
> > > > > > the FCS it has received the new call and NOT the FCS that
> > polls the
> > > > > > queue of the notification server to see if there is any
new call
> > > > pending.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thank you mates!
> > > > > >
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