Well, whomever is holding things up, a standard is only a guideline, right? And 
that's the risk you take when you base a technology on a comittee: sometimes, 
and for whatever reason, that committee might steer things in a different 
direction than you originally intended. Otherwise Adobe would be just another 
bully in the playground instead of a partner. So what happened was inevitable. 
Whether it's MS's fault or anyone else's we could debate until we're blue in 
the 
face. Who cares?

If the committee in charge of the standard is holding back innovation, there 
are 
three choices:
1) stifle innovation in favour of the committee's wishes;
2) abandon the standard altogether;
3) create a new standard out of the ashes of the old.

Thank god Adobe isn't kowtowing to the new Harmony standard, that would 
horribly 
cripple ActionScript. As an ActionScript developer, I want more innovation, not 
less, thank-you-very-much. That leaves Adobe with the  uncomfortable choice of 
2) or 3): each have their drawbacks.

Adobe could abandon any ECMA standard altogether, and they'd be within their 
rights to do so. I don't see Java suffering for SUN's decision not to associate 
with (what is now) ECMA. (Other than the fact that it's a server-side dinosaur 
*ducks, runs* :) [KIDDING!]

But ultimately I believe Adobe's best bet would be to form their own working 
committee, their own ECMA standard, similar to what MS has done with C#. Maybe 
then we'll see private constructors, method overloading and multiple 
inheritance 
in the language.

Being a pessimist about web standardization, I could not envision the day when 
ActionScript would ever become a _usable_ web standard, so this comes as no 
great surprise. Hell, the WC3 and the various browser makers can't get their 
head out of their ass long enough to put together a standard that will be 
adopted in less than 20 years for crying out loud. What makes you think 
ActionScript would ever be adopted in enough browsers with enough 
standardization not to repeat the utter compatibility mess that CSS/JS is 
currently in? It's a fantastic idea, but I think Adobe's decision to try and 
have ActionScript in its current incarnation through tamarin be adopted as a 
new 
web standard was too far ahead of its time.

I agree with one statement that has been made, can't remember by whom: the web 
is not ready for ECMAScript 4. Hell, it's not even ready for JavaScript 3 or 
CSS 
3. Adobe would do far better to create their own standard that doesn't try to 
shoehorn the rest of the web into ActionScript, and get on with continuing 
being 
a serious programming language. Let the web standards pundits have ECMA 3.1 and 
Harmony. Maybe by the time my grandchildren are doing web programming it'll be 
ready for prime time. And people like myself can focus on developing robust web 
applications that actually work, with a serious language that continues to kick 
ass all over the internet.


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Joseph Balderson, Flash Platform Developer | http://joeflash.ca


hank williams wrote:
>> I don't quite see how it's a big step backward *or* a black eye for
>> Adobe (as your blog argued). There are dozens of languages in
>> widespread use out there... AS3 being (approximately) based on a
>> standard, while a good bullet point for marketing, never yielded any
>> advantage as far as I could see.
>>
> 
> This is a valid point, but the reason I call it a black eye is because
> adobe spent a lot of time hanging their hat on the idea that this was
> going to be a standard. To the extent that was helpful to them (I
> presume it was otherwise they wouldnt have bothered) it is no longer
> an accurate statement. Adobe wanted the industry to move one way, and
> Microsoft forced it to move another way.
> 
> Hank
> 
>> Troy.
>>
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