No, I won't get off your back, stop spamming the list with your insane whining. "Ask Adobe" followed by 4 pages of your paranoid schizophrenic delusional rambling is not "answering the question".
We get it. You're worried about Adobe competing against developers. Now shut the hell up about it, some of us have *actual* problems to solve. -Josh On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 9:37 AM, Robert Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > Listen, > > I didn't post the question but was answering it. > > And told the person it's the best thing to do to contact them and that it's > standard to (C) samples so they aren't misused. > > So get off my back. > > As for your your expletive, I'll make sure and pass it on to Yahoo. > > I doubt you'd make that comment in person Sherif. > > If you care to, come visit my town, I'll make sure and call the Sheriff > and you can spend the night in jail. > > -r > > > On Aug 31, 2008, at 3:35 PM, Sherif Abdou wrote: > > > WEll, I would email Adobe since it says this on every file > > //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// > // > // Copyright (C) 2003-2006 Adobe Macromedia Software LLC and its licensors. > // All Rights Reserved. > // The following is Sample Code and is subject to all restrictions on such > code > // as contained in the End User License Agreement accompanying this product. > // If you have received this file from a source other than Adobe, > // then your use, modification, or distribution of it requires > // the prior written permission of Adobe. > // > //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// > and can we stop complaining and spamming now about Adobe and scene7 > already.1) Your answer had nothing to do with the question and welcome to the > world. > > 2_If your that scared from losing some bids and the job then you don't > belong to this business, just saying. > > 3) You have to adapt and move on, and FutureWave/FutureSplash is technically > Adobe Flash. > > 4)Papervision plug-in? What are you talking about? > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Robert Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > *To:* [email protected] > *Sent:* Sunday, August 31, 2008 12:17 PM > *Subject:* Re: [flexcoders] Flexstore license? > > > To answer your question about any purchaser of Adobe products having to > "license" an example they put out for use. > > Microsoft, Adobe, nearly every company puts (C) Copyright statements in > it's examples. > > This is to prevent competitors from outright distributing code they have no > right to. > > As examples to the FLEX Builder Product Owner, these examples have a very > real place in teaching you how things are done. > > The Hybrid and Store 2.0 examples are frankly not as complicated as you > might think - as long as you base all your data exchange on XML. > > As long as you create your own system, I wouldn't worry about it. But the > future of AIR and Flash Player I would worry about. > > My hope is Papervision comes out with their own Plug-in; as at this point > and time, it's the perfect timing to let Flash Player 9 and earlier deal > with all the earlier sites. > > And spread the word, if they choose to develop one, a Papervision3D > plug-in, and began where FutureWave did, with a fresh new high performance > platform for Visual Computing. > > The IT integration with things like Cold Fusion can then happen in more of > a W3C and SOAP XML complaint way (Or RESTful XML way). > > I myself am playing things safer, including in the use of any ColdFusion, > by taking the following route: > > > - Using FTD Enterprise 3.0 <http://fdt.powerflasher.com/> as my IDE so > it's not an Adobe Product > - Using Open .SWF formats and tools, and Flash CS3 only when necessary > for my clients > - Working on a new Cycling '72 like visual interface for programming > and generating .SWF's (or hopefully .P3D's if Papervision3D hopefully goes > out on their own since it appears Adobe cannot be trusted and is getting > prideful and greedy in my opinion (what they're trying to do now with > Acrobat is a joke; and I thought that before the discoveries of last week) > - Encouraging Papervision3D to go out on their own and take this great > opportunity in time and be the next "FutureSplash" by developing their own > plug-in > - Integrating CUDO graphic support into OpenLaszlo.org version 4.0 > - Anything that allows use of Adobe products only when necessary, and > changing focus on W3C Standards and more reasonable people who are less > greedy to do not charge large sums of money to a development community and > then turn on them. Even Microsoft is not doing with Adobe is doing. I've > always saw them as a "deal with when necessary" company and was pulling for > them 100% until last week. I have no love for them at all anymore. I see > a > dark future for them as they are growing lustful obviously with the > possibilities of AIR. Things will change though. > > > The safest route at this time while Adobe is creating FLEX applications for > these companies, is to take a step back, and big breath, and look at the > long-term future of the Web. > > Look at the clients they have served on Scene7.com and the *fact* that a > FLEX interface is, was, and will continue to be used to complete projects > like the NIKE project (which many of us on this list have the capability of > doing) > > Here's the NIKE project, > > > http://www.nike.com/index.jhtml?cp=USNS_AD_0724081536&l=nikestore,grid,_pdp,cid-1/gid-98967/pid-98967,_grid,f-35015%2010001&re=US&co=US&la=EN#l=nikestore,grid,_pdp,cid-1/gid-98967/pid-98967,_grid,f-35015%2010001&re=US&co=US&la=EN<http://www.nike.com/index.jhtml?cp=USNS_AD_0724081536&l=nikestore,grid,_pdp,cid-1/gid-98967/pid-98967,_grid,f-35015%252010001&re=US&co=US&la=EN%23l=nikestore,grid,_pdp,cid-1/gid-98967/pid-98967,_grid,f-35015%252010001&re=US&co=US&la=EN> > > Here's the client list that some of FLEX coders who spent money on projects > could have possibly bid on (whether it's ELanc.com or any of the other > freelance, or bidding hubs out there), > > 1154 LILL STUDIO > AdsPay USA > AGAM Group, Ltd. > Aircraft Shopper Online > AlluraDirect.com > Al's Formal Wear > Amazon.com > Anderson Press Incorporated > Annalee Mobilitee Dolls, Inc. > Ann Taylor > Anthropologie > ARTstor > Art Van Furniture > Auction123, Inc. > Baghaus > Bare Necessities > Baseball Express, Inc. > Bass Pro Shops > Bassett Furniture > Bath & Body Works > Beall's Department Stores, Inc. > Beau Ties Ltd. of Vermont > Behr Paint > Benchmark Brands > Bernie & Phyl's Furniture > Bertolini Sanctuary Seating > Best & Co. > Blockbuster > Bloomingdale's > Bombay Company > Brewster Wallcovering Company > Bronner's CHRISTmas Wonderland > Butterfield & Robinson > California State University at Fullerton > Calvert Education Services > Casual Male Retail Group, Inc. > CATFootwear.com > Cathy's Concept > Cendant > Chaparral Motorsports > Chicago Historical Society > Chic Mystique > Children's Wear Digest > Cloudveil > Club Colors > Coldwater Creek > Commemorative Brands > Cookie Lee > Corporate Express > Cost Plus, Inc. > CPA2Biz > Cutter & Buck > David's Bridal > DayTimers > Delightful Deliveries > Delta Faucet Company > Dennis Kirk > Design Center Solutions (DCS) > Design Toscano > Design Within Reach > Diamond H Recognition > Direct Supply, Inc. > Drexel Heritage Furniture Industries, Inc. > DoItYourself.com > eBags.com > eBizAutos > Eddie Bauer > Eileen Fisher, Inc > EMI Plastic Equipment > enavia.com > Exclusively Weddings > ExOfficio > F. Schumacher & Co. > Fathead > Filativa > Finestationery.com > Fiori Belli > Follett Higher Education Group > Fortunoff.com > Forzieri > Foto Source Canada Inc > Fresh Produce > Furniturefind.com > Furniture Village > FutureStock > G&K Services > Gaiam > Gevalia Kaffe > Gienow Windows & Doors > Golfsmith > Gottschalks > GreatOccasions.com > Gucci Group N.V. > Hammacher Schlemmer > Hancock Fabrics > Hanna Andersson > Harley Davidson > Harrods.com > Hartford York > Hartmann, Inc. > Hartwell Classic Apparel > Havertys Furniture > Heritage > Hershey Co., The > Historic Golf > The Home Depot > Hunter Douglas > HSN > Hush Puppies > ICM Corporation > Illuminations > Intermix > Jessops > J & R Music > J. C. Penney Corporation, Inc. > JustBlinds.com > Justin Brands > Kaleidoscope > KI > kimiko fisika > LaCrosse Footwear, Inc. > LAMPS PLUS > Lands' End > La-Z-Boy > Learning Resources(R) > Lenox, Inc. > Levenger > Levi Strauss & Co. > Lillian Vernon > Long Meadow Ranch > LustreColor > Macys.com > Mannington Mills, Inc. > Material Flow and Conveyor Systems > Men's Wearhouse > Merrell > Mervyns > Metro Uniforms > Mitchell Gold > Momentum Group > Moosejaw Mountaineering > Mothercare > Mount Vernon Nazarene University > NapaStyle > National Business Furniture > Nectar > New Balance Athletic Shoe, Inc. > NewOrleansOnline.com > NINFRA > Northwestern University > Odimo > Office Depot, Inc. > OhioLINK > Ohio State University > Oli > OTTO UK > Pacific Coast Lighting > Pacific Sunwear > PalmBeach Jewelry > Paradise Pen > Party Rental Ltd > Pendleton Woolen Mills > Personal Creations > PETCO > Plum Island Silver Company > Polaris > Polo Ralph Lauren Corporation > Pottery Barn > Pottery Barn Kids > President's Choice > Professional Cutlery Direct > PUMA North America > Punch! Software > Quixtar > QVC > Randall K Designers Experss > R.C. Bigelow > Reading Glasses To Go > Re-Bath > Redcats USA > Red Hats and More > Restoration Hardware > Rhodes Furniture > Road Runner Sports, Inc. > Robb & Stucky > Roman, Inc. > S&S Worldwide > Samuels Jewelers > Scripps Networks > Sears > Sea Gull Lighting > Shari's Berries > Shaw Industries, Inc. > Shofu Dental Corporation > Shop.org > Siegler & Co. > Sierra Trading Post > SmartWool(R) > Smith & Noble > Sources2go.com > Sportsman's Guide > Springs Window Fashions LP > Stage Stores, Inc. > Stumps Printing, Inc. > The Boy Scouts of America > The Conran Shop > The Shade Store > The Shopping Channel > Thomasville > Title Nine > Tommy Hilfiger Corporation > Track 'n Trail > Treasures From a Bygone Era > Tropitone > TSC Apparel > Tuesday Morning > Ulla Popken > Under Armour > United Retail Group > UpFootgear.com > Urban Decay > Vann's > Veer > Vera Bradley > Venus Swimwear > Victoria 's Secret > VML > Wehkamp > west elm > Williams-Sonoma, Inc. > Williams-Sonoma Home > Wolverine World Wide > Workbookstock.com > Zillow.com > > > > > > On Aug 31, 2008, at 7:11 AM, Josh McDonald wrote: > > > Hey Guys, > > Wondering what the license is on the Flexstore code? Can it be used as a > basis for commercial products? > > And don't look at me like that, it's not my idea. > > -Josh > > -- > "Therefore, send not to know For whom the bell tolls. It tolls for thee." > > :: Josh 'G-Funk' McDonald > :: 0437 221 380 :: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > -- "Therefore, send not to know For whom the bell tolls. It tolls for thee." :: Josh 'G-Funk' McDonald :: 0437 221 380 :: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
