Just my opinion but to get it right the first time and make that positive impact, it’s going to cost you time and money. Not just in licensing costs but in developer ramp-up time and so forth. Secondly, you really need a fresh perspective from a design standpoint. Every single developer I’ve seen start with this technology takes an existing UI implementation (html, jps, cfml etc) and attempts to convert this in identical form in flex. While that’s probably a great learning process, I’m sure there are teams out there that approach their entire first project in this manner. The results can be less than impressive…Your end users are looking at the same presentation of data and workflow combined with some new quirks and minor limitations that can drive folks bonkers if they don’t see additional benefits. (“Hey! How come I lose everything when I hit reload on my browser ?!”)

 

What I’m babbling about here is you need to make real effort in the design phase to leverage the advantages of this rich platform. You’ve now got an arsenal of tools for building sexy looking applications that fit your organizations workflow like a glove. You need to use ‘em. In the end I believe the best chance of success lies with the level of satisfaction derived by the end users of an application. Constantly look for ways to refine your app towards making their lives faster, better, cheaper. Task oriented design rolled up into a smooth sexy package!

 

Is it worth the cost? I’m biased here but I believe so without a doubt…although you won’t see much cost savings until you’re on your third project or so…

 

Just my soap box opinion here…it’s not always an easy path but I assure you it’s quite enjoyable. I had been so unbelievable bored with web app development over the past few years…and flex has made things a helluva lot more interesting to say the least.

 

Cheers!

Stace

 


From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of naden
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 11:03 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Re: If I buy a flex license can I host other peoples apps on the license?

 

 

Hi Stace,

 

I am over here at a university in Perth, Australia and are looking at Flex for one of our software projects.

 

I would be immensely grateful if you had any thoughts on Flex in general, whether it is worth the money etc

 

Usability improvements and reduced development costs are always a huge benefit :)

 

Cheers,

 

Naden

 

On 19/07/2005, at 10:52 PM, Stacy Young wrote:



I think the critical factor is the first flex project. That’s what will make or break the perception of bean counters. Usability improvements, reduced development costs, look and feel all come into play. That very first project needs to make a statement…or you may be up the creek the next time you go to the till for licensing cash.

 

-Stace

 


From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rick Bullotta
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 10:42 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Re: If I buy a flex license can I host other peoples apps on the license?

 

Agree with you.  But 125K for a system that would be deployed broadly and may be “mission critical” would seem tiny – probably the same as the janitorial budget for a day or two.    I also agree with your choice of wording in “seemingly free alternatives…”.  J

 

- Rick


From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Anthony Merryfield
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 10:38 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Re: If I buy a flex license can I host other peoples apps on the license?

 

Depends what you're comparing. If I was a technical beancounter looking at the cost of Flex, comparing it to open source solutions and then seeing what our application requirements were; I'd be asking why we were spending ANY thousands of pounds on proprietary software over seemingly free alternatives. Especially since...

 

"We were going to buy something like 8 or 14 additional licenses to the multitude we already have, and
the pricing is just totally ridiculous for what we need it for."

 

...I'd be asking why you need more licenses if you are not using it to it's fullest potential yet?

 

To be fair, we're making judgements on one piece of a puzzle - maybe Jon could expand on his statement before we sit here waxing lyrical about his companies policies?

 

T.




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